The Vegan Eating Hairstylist, Who's About To Set The World On Fire! Mr. Zack Goldberg.

Brock Goldberg :   0:06
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Zack Goldberg:   0:35
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Brock Goldberg :   2:02
Zachary Goldberg. All right, all right, all right. It's your boy. Brock Goldberg. Welcome to back to your story. I'm here the day with a very handsome young man by the name of Zachary Goldberg. He is Maya. He's my cousin. Guilty, guilty and guilty of charge. Adam. Ah, lot of people say that Ah, he looks like my wife's. And I, uh, little son, he is a beautiful natural redhead. just like my life. And, um, he, uh he's living with us right now. How's everything going?

Zack Goldberg:   2:40
Everything's great. It is actually kind of freaky. How much I look like you guys aside. Muchas it's brought up. I'm still not over. It

Brock Goldberg :   2:46
just doesn't make sense. It's It's It's true. I mean, if Elissa and I were walking walking around with you in the middle, you definitely look like our little boy,

Zack Goldberg:   2:54
which we've also gotten approach. It's

Brock Goldberg :   2:58
like, When did we have kids, though? Because ah, come 33. Ah, you're 24. So I guess the list and I were making babies at a

Zack Goldberg:   3:04
very young age. You never know why I came out so gorgeous looking. It was like a little tweak in the Geneva.

Brock Goldberg :   3:10
Yeah, it's true. It's true. So So let's get down to it, man. Um, were you friend? Where'd you grow up? Tell me. Tell me your story. Yeah.

Zack Goldberg:   3:20
My story starts in the beautiful, rich town of Bakersfield, California, And yeah, if you aren't from Bakersfield, you definitely wouldn't describe it that way. You are from Bakersfield. You probably still wouldn't describe it that way. I'm just trying to make it seem nicer than it is. Yeah, but yeah, I grew up there. Made it out, thanks to you here in Los Angeles now, but, uh, shoot as far as my story goes, I mean, over the last few years, like, it's really when it's, like, picked up. And I just kind of got a big hold of, Like, who I am more and like working on, like, my veganism. That's yeah, that I'm doing lately. And I'm working on my hair and all that kind of stuff. Just building a future and, you know, family stuff like that. I really haven't had family like a walk around and say it looked like before, so

Brock Goldberg :   4:02
I know that's always nice, right? For for you and I growing up, we, uh we we had this big age gap, right? And I always remember looking at you is like, little Zach, little Zach and I never would have imagined all these years later you living with us, you're getting into the hair industry, becoming my best friend in the goddamn world, my brother, about the relationship that you and Elissa have, um I have to say when it first started happening, I was very intimidated. I was like, Fuck this. I do not want him living here like I had all of these feelings, because for me, I I'm like, I know it's like, um the only alfa in the room a lot of the times, and, ah, having even though your family right. And even though I knew you weren't gonna fuck my wife, uh um uh, there was it was scary and, well, that's all right. Long as I could watch. But it definitely intimidated me. And, um, it took some some time getting over. And I do remember sitting down with you, um, having a conversation when it was ready in time for you to move in and ah, we sat in the kitchen table and it was just we were talking about passiveness, you know, for for me, having a lot of roommates, regardless of their family or not, um, I would always let things slide, and then they would always manifest the manifest. And I don't know when it happened we had that conversation, but I know when it happened, but but something fucking changed where there'll be times where I'm just kind of like sitting back and just staring at you too. Like I was working out the other day in the living room and I couldn't hear what the hell you guys were talking about. But I could see a list of laughing her ass off and and you laughing, And and so it went from, like, Brock, your fucking idiot. This is your cousin like you, Like what the fuck to now? Like, I'm gonna cry right now because it's just so amazing. And, um, you know, this is what this is all about. You know, life is a blink of an eye, and we take a lot of things for granted. I'm me. I'm just like holding on this bucket. Blunt,

Zack Goldberg:   6:10
huh? Yeah. You can't take the weed for granted. Well, here in California, that happens often. God damn.

Brock Goldberg :   6:17
We definitely can't spoke to budgets. But way take, I take a lie. I don't know. I tend to sometimes take things for granted. As I'm getting older, I'm starting to realize things and push things to the front. That's why I'm bringing this up right now. I don't even know if you know about this. I don't know if a list of shared it with you, right. But I was I was truly intimidated. And it was just because you're another Alfa man. You're a fucking, um, allowed, amazing, passionate human being that I see a lot of similarities of myself in. But you have a lot of traits that I also wish I had that I don't And and and that's okay. But now I get to see the relationship foster between you and Eliza relationship Foster between you and I. And I know I can be definitely a challenge to live with. Um, but but it's awesome. And, you know, this is about your story, You know, You you started out in Bakersfield. Um, which toe? People who don't know. It's like bum fuck Egypt a little, you know, of middle or Southern California. What was that, like growing up for you in a place that I don't know, I just Maybe I'm speaking for you, but you always felt different. Maybe you weren't that.

Zack Goldberg:   7:25
No, you're not wrong. You're not wrong. But that's the case there, though. It's it's ah red dot on a big blue state and like, I kind of, um a pretty blue person and that kind of aspect so going around. They're also being just in not necessarily myself in those days, too, like having so much like of myself with, like, not capable of being shown because it wasn't the environment for it. So there's a lot of like holding yourself back, and I think that's like the level of Alfa. I've become a swell. I like that. You put it that way because, like it's really true. I've I've kind of been raised around a lot of Alphas, like working with them, and I'm the type of leader that can lead with someone. I'm like that type of person. I like to grow with someone like, I don't believe that anyone's best on their own. So it's like, you know, we are different, but we're If we're both leaders, then there's obviously qualities in both of us that are worth it. So you gotta step back and look at those things and make it the best environment, of course, and like your people succeed, you succeed like that's a big thing. I've been trying to work on it myself in the last like year, so in general and like I feel like it's kind of late in life is just like working on really representing your team and lets the people that you're with, like your surroundings and like, you know, like, this is my environment now, like I'm here and I'm in your house and, like I'm developing our concept of family and developed our concept of brotherhood and placing ourselves right, you know, like when we're second cousins. But Barbara, like crazy, it's It's an interesting situation this and like Elissa like, That's not just like your girl that site. Yeah, that's that's my sister now. So, like, she was really developed in a lot of a lot of ways to like in the ways that you're absent, she gets to be present for me and vice versa because you guys act two different ways and talk about two different things. Yes, and like has made this transition easier, like for sure, with all the things I'm doing and like, you know, breaking down that wall, like living in Bakersfield, was not the deal, and I left. I went to San Diego for a year, and that's actually when we reconnected exact time. But life happens. You fall off again, Of course, then not not. You fought like life just falls out. And, uh, luckily, you decided to go and marry this wonderful woman that brought us together again. That's kind of sense, Like what kept us running But being there and like just not being able to be expressive and then finding out like that, I can now be my version of the Alfa. I want to be in like I start building my life, and this is like, just like, you know, there's just been opportunity after opportunity, that's like, taught me how to maximize things And like I've sabotaged myself for like so long because I've played, like, almost like a pity roll because I grew up in somewhere that like, Oh, like what was me like? Oh, it's little Bakersfield. Everyone makes it sound so terrible. But then, like once I got away, I didn't like where I was out there either, necessarily, And I was like, Oh, shoot, It might be me,

Brock Goldberg :   10:04
and this is No, no, no, no. But, you know, this is the same thing for for some people, you know, so many humans are not hold the same right, and there could be very strong similarities between people that don't even know each other. And what I mean by that is being an individual born in a place where everyone is walking, Let's say right and you're the type of person that walks left. That, although in my mind, sounds fucking amazing because a human being like that can foster into something that is truly ah hum Ah, just outstanding and outstanding, an outlier of a human being. And, um, some people get stuck, but some people are able to latch on. And what I mean by that is creating a surrounding for themselves. They say that you'll be like the five closest people in your life. Well, I always give this, um, kind of analogy, like if you hang out with a whole bunch of fucking drug dealers and drug addicts. Well, what are you gonna probably be? Shouldn't exactly if you hang out with a whole bunch of millionaires and people, they're successful in that take care for themselves, and maybe they don't even to be millionaires. People that work hard and push forward in life rights throw the millionaire thing out. But

Zack Goldberg:   11:18
people have had their head above the exactly what

Brock Goldberg :   11:20
you're gonna be at 100%. And, um, it's really awesome because I remember the very first time I reached out to you trying to get you to just check out the hair industry and all that was in such a looking back or insane. Yeah, well, looking back, I was like, nine. I probably should have taken them something like ice s e. To show him like the big part of the industry I see is the International Salon and Spa Expo. It's like the creme de la creme of a hair show. 30,000 people attended it, and it's a fucking party, right? Um, you don't even have to be a hairdresser, and you have a fantastic time. Um but I reached out to you, and I'm happy that when I reached out to him, brought you to a class that I was teaching that you're like, Nonna, like not right now. Pretty much right. And that was very smart, because at that time I was not ready in my life to give you all that. I think I can share with you as you get older. And I know there's a lot of things I'm learning for him you too. So it's a vice a versa. Things way

Zack Goldberg:   12:20
like you were still learning it wasn't your time to be. Oh, so you and I felt like I was still learning away like it wasn't my my moment to be the the the Apprentice in this education. And, like, I wasn't ready tow to take myself into that situation. And I mean, I could have said yes. And like, went toe i s s e with you four years ago Now when you invited me. Yeah. And I'm glad I waited until two years ago when, our year ago, When I had to make some pretty wild decisions on my head. But there was a bunch of things that put me to getting there. So where I can actually withstand being here now, Like cutting off my life, changing everything,

Brock Goldberg :   12:56
of course. Eso people that, um, would be listening to this when you're talking about What were you doing before you? Ah, moved in and shared this beautiful home. That of this and I have with you before you moved in and, um, you know, started working with Tamara. Ah. What were you doing before that?

Zack Goldberg:   13:15
Yeah, before, Before I got in this whole hair game and being right where I'm at right now, I was Ah, I've been working since I was 16. I had my first job in a restaurant and like, after that, it was just uphill with job after job of like, being good for myself, putting myself at the top spot in those positions and doing that and kind of overachieving in a lot of big ways, which sometimes I'm like, damn you really putting all that effort for that. But then I'm like, No, no, no, no, no. You gotta pull your own stuff out. Every single one of those situations. And like all that work I put in tow, be able to apply to my new profession that I'm doing now, like my version of college or something. Yes, but I, uh, then got a job at Starbucks. I was 18 and that's when I, like, quit all my other jobs. I just worked at Starbucks and, like, five months later, they were like, Let's put you as a supervisor and, you know, yeah, it makes you feel like a hot, super

Brock Goldberg :   14:03
tired from a box when I was 18. You can come in a supervisor. Things are different between us.

Zack Goldberg:   14:10
Family different? Yeah, I got I got bumped up there and people made me feel really good. Like it was decent pay. You know, my apron was still the same color as everyone else is. It didn't make the difference. Like it put me in that. That's what we're also like. I got to create that environment of my own. Like, you know, direct people help people like I needed a job. I knew other people were there. They needed a job like Make it easier. Not be that like supervisor, that everyone hated like that bus that you hate like also hate when people come in that box. I

Brock Goldberg :   14:38
think it's weird. It's It's very unique for the first time, someone that is put in that position at such a young age, right for you to call you other than your first name and look at you as something and then just regular worker becoming adviser. It's a lot. It's a lot of

Zack Goldberg:   14:54
my partners that I had to manage at the time. I have to do sit downs with their She's 56 whole weeks. You're literally like you already. She already had a career profession, everything. And then I was like, Oh, I'm just gonna go work at Starbucks, and I'm over that. I retired. I'm like, Okay, well, you know, I got stuff to do here, you know? Come on. Like you can't just be just be gabbing around the whole time, But it was real nice, you know, like, but that taught me something about myself. And so I worked my way through Starbucks, and I held keys at, like, six different stores, and I worked my way up. I want to do a bunch of stuff, hope in brand new ones And, like, really went through, like, a lot of training and, like, hard work and asked and managing people and being inclusive in the workplace And, like, kind of actually being in a free environment like June in Bakersfield. But still getting to, like, yeah, be inside somewhere that you create, like Starbucks is so inclusive, like,

Brock Goldberg :   15:40
you know, So I I Well, I have a question and I already know the answer to this, but just don't ask. I'm gonna share with you. When I worked at Starbucks, it's so crazy to see how Starbucks has changed and evolved as a business because when I was 18 19 years old, working at Starbucks in West Palm Beach, Florida Um, you had to cover your tattoos. I was locked up. I had to cover my tattoos.

Zack Goldberg:   16:01
They're way more strict.

Brock Goldberg :   16:02
I couldn't have like a beer, anything like that, right? And to see now evolved where it's like. You know, obviously, tattoos were so acceptable now, but it's just crazy to see that your own shirt and not be a Yeah, And I couldn't like grotto like a beard. And even though I wouldn't have back then, you couldn't have a

Zack Goldberg:   16:20
bigger your hands fully taut around like, Oh, I've been Yeah, I've never been considered Not

Brock Goldberg :   16:25
I for me even looking like at my hands Now it's like, Holy shit. I I always loved Travis. Mark always love tattoos. Um, to think now, at 33 years old, having my hands fucking blasted, Yeah,

Zack Goldberg:   16:38
Let's the pleasures you were trying to create with the lifestyle you built. That's what we want to be hairstylist. I e t got it. And, like, get out of my chair.

Brock Goldberg :   16:48
No, no, I get it. I get it. So you're at Starbucks?

Zack Goldberg:   16:50
I was there from 18 to 22 I lied. Longevity? Yeah, I left there when I was 22. I worked it between Bakersfield in San Diego that I move back to Bakersfield. Forget why Why did you leave? I left Starbucks because, like, I felt like moving up the people that were already like above me, they were gonna be my my peers and my equals. And they weren't people that I thought We're gonna take that legitimately. And I was like, I'm gonna get myself just into more chaos in tow. Another career path that I don't want to be done. And I was like, You're gonna be a Starbucks manager making $50,000 a year. 22. That's great. But it sounds like I might get stuck. Yes, and that's what I was looking for. So I left and went over to the bank. Yeah, I just

Brock Goldberg :   17:27
thought this way you go right or left in your life. And you fucking chose.

Zack Goldberg:   17:30
I'm about jumping. Yeah, I like to jump. And like I left there and I went t current schools, Federal credit union, you know, they're big credit union to care the employees. I loved it. I got myself making good money and they shot me. My own desk. Amount

Brock Goldberg :   17:44
of thought. This is that next season, your life that you have that adult shit?

Zack Goldberg:   17:50
Yeah, Like where? I'm wearing a suit and tie. They work like you because I'm such a different person than really. But, you know, I came in there looking course, doctor. I had to tell Harry. I remember one summer, I got cornrows done, and I got I had long hair. I had cornrows in my hair and I went to the bank for a week with them in, like, what did they say? No one said anything to me that I got compliments, but I I have people saying like, Are you serious? Let me do what? I gotta do it. I gotta wear this suit. I looked pretty big. Yeah, on God, I did have a little beat. Every yes, crossing. And I love it, but yeah, it like it was it was a good job. So I answered phones there and did some, like, some stuff like that for them. And I liked it because you got to talk to like people on the phone all the time. Like I'd get old people calling and just to check their balance next over talking like two hours. And I can't hang up on him. And they're telling me the craziest shit or they just like having hard parts. I have cried on the phone with people, like having somewhere heart issues like my father and still have the kind of stuff you just like here about one. Like people just come a calling in like, Hey, I waved your $30 fee because you over Just because you're broke, I'm broke. We're all broke. We get it. Is Bakersfield united

Brock Goldberg :   19:04
to Toto? How do you decipher between the two? Because there have been times in my life where I call in AA and I get a completely different response, right? Just that it's just the person

Zack Goldberg:   19:14
behind it like yeah, and also the invite. You working like I've been lucky enough thio being really good work environments like Korean schools also took care of the employees. I cared about what people thought about them. They were a hometown kind. D'oh! Now you can get into places like you work in actual bank like chase and stuff when they're like or like, What was the Wells Fargo that had some stuff? All of the news, like, you know, Yeah, there's always crop going on, like those employees don't want to work there. That's part of the reason the higher up, you know, the bosses except you're making real coin, but rather not You just taken sweat over the phone, the whole damn. That's something I was interested

Brock Goldberg :   19:47
in. I'm sure people like I mean, you know, I know for sure, like in some Asian cultures that I mean, people do that because of the monotony, the amount of hours and just type of work I put in the high risk of suicide.

Zack Goldberg:   20:00
Yeah, it's really true. Like you're sitting under fluorescent lights of the desk all day long, taking phone calls and, like they have me timed on everything that I'm doing. Like you have to go up and take a piss like that's time That's curry. So it's like I'm not interested in you having like, my phone topped my computer, topped my life top, and then I started training new people, and I'm like, reaching about like, you know, we got to do what's right for the member and all that. I realize I'm a member, and like when I call in, I want someone to really give me a one customer service course. But also, I don't give a fuck. Yeah, like, get you checked out. So then I realized I have to Once again, I'm crawling up a ladder that I was like, Shit, I'm back in a position with more money in my pocket, but shit, I don't want to be doing and like, you know, money has always been the motive, but at the same time, like, I really am trying to keep my mental sanity as much as I can because, like this while I'm here. So I once again, you know, I just up and quit. Like, one day I packed up my desk and was just like later, guys, I'm out two days later. That's actually why I came and saw you. I was out like like, 45 minutes from your house at, like, a dinner party. I like a few glasses of wine. It was like in the middle today. Hey, cut my hair. My hair, like nine months, and I gotta get that. Was that Was that a k No, no, no, That was here. That was here. You weren't even at k anymore. But I came here because it was a year ago. Now, like, remember, November 8th of the year before last 2018. Now, because I had literally just quit and I came here. You give me, like, a three hour haircut, and we were

Brock Goldberg :   21:21
a little shit. Yeah, that's a typical round here. Yeah.

Zack Goldberg:   21:25
Have anything was on the short list? Yeah, we only have talking to talking. It was like November. And then you're like, Oh, I got this hair event in January. Yes. And I was

Brock Goldberg :   21:34
like, I remember that shit. Fuck, man. Totally. It was I don't know. I just wanted to invite you.

Zack Goldberg:   21:41
Yeah. I mean, as you had before. But it just the time you have me, right? Like, for some reason, I was like, I need to get my hair cut right now. And like, I chose that decision and like, came in here. Then we just started talking and talking, talking because pretty much all we do is to always always, uh you told me all about it. and I was like, Well, shit, but I need a job. No, but, you know, I started doing, like, uber and lift and some stuff like that, which was cool, too, because I got to keep your own schedule. You got so, you know, make money on a quick sale. I could go make a bill real quick, absolute and like, live my life and take out one

Brock Goldberg :   22:13
of our classic. I mean, just just don't even think that there's a company like uber, right? You know, I know a lot of people like way now have the ability to just look at our phone. And if we have a car, get a job like that, it makes much as you want. Now, you might not like, like, how much they pay you, right? Um, an hour and I don't know, because I've never worked for uber, but the point is, is having that ability because that

Zack Goldberg:   22:41
if you want it, you got it like horse. Not actually like I don't like that Like a career, like a lot of people do, like, do it a lot, and they want to do like they've been passing new laws and stuff about them having to make them actual employees, which seems like a house on the half, because it takes away the freelance side of it. Of course, like even with the hair industry, like you're doing other stuff. But when you want to cut here, you can cut some hair. Makes makes course. I need to go score some extra cash. Yeah, let me go and pick up my car that I have a car. I pay a car note for a reason. My insurance for a reason. Let me go make some money back on it real quick because that's just the way it goes. But yeah, they might not get paid the best sometimes, but that's if it's busy. If it's not, there also depends on if you want to hustle. Everything is always about how hard you're gonna put it. Absolutely. You know, 20 hours at your job pick up a shift exactly up. Another should

Brock Goldberg :   23:24
absolutely do what you can look for other things like so many people kind of get stuck in there, Norm. And it's for you. You've had this innate ability to take this leap of faith. Um, and if you look at the macro the bird's eye view of your own life. It's on this trajectory that is going up and up and up, and if you

Zack Goldberg:   23:46
even though I feel low Hello, love overcomes. That's just the way it goes to

Brock Goldberg :   23:50
is it is if it's so hard. And I know what he says. He's like the at this point, you sometimes can't see the light at the end of the tunnel. Yeah, but once you reach that, you don't you know you'll hit that part, you hit it and then we'll be this other tunnel on this other thing about my life. Right? But

Zack Goldberg:   24:09
you keep hopping out. You're Toto. I know. Yeah. I want to build 10. I mean, this is a new one right here. Yeah. Yeah. Just like creating or creating all these different days. Different aspects. I mean, like, even sometimes I stay back. I'm like, damn it, Brock, you literally just pulled me into here this year. You're trying to pull yourself out of it, okay? It's like, you know what? It's just constantly showing me. The sourcing is like new endeavors. It's the same thing we've represented in each other's lives for a long absolutely. Is just, like, opportunity on up

Brock Goldberg :   24:34
way. Have to. And so now, um, you leave, you leave there. You do uber, um And what happened next? We

Zack Goldberg:   24:43
go and then says he rocked. Yeah, And I had a really great time. Like everyone was just, like, super nice. I saw a lot of crazy shit like it was just a bunch of, like, punk hairstyle. It's just like doing their thing. And, like, I mean, how many work, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you invited me to work there, and so we went. It was like, Yeah, I invited you to work exactly ago. Everything I paint a picture, but yes. Oh, so when once you invited me, though, you know, I was smart enough to say yes this time And like, lucky enough to be able to say yes because, you know, even if I can't, I got my hair cut by you. And I didn't quit at the bank. You could've still invited me in that moment, like you did last time when I had a job and I would have had to say no because I couldn't get time off for having so it's like you know, jumping out of something creates all these different like open doors for you. And, like, I'm just, like, continuously, Like trying to reach and run for him, but yeah, So we went to I s s see, It was, like, five days long. I felt like we were, like, rock show. Yeah, exactly.

Brock Goldberg :   25:39
Fucked up your hair, which then led you get the way it was. Yeah, it was a late night. Whatever. Tom Chapman, you're

Zack Goldberg:   25:47
exactly tell Chapman the Gero Barbara Director J R. Uh, you came through and 1/2 for the show. That Dale? Yeah, it looked It looked great. And that was that was one of those moments. I was like, Oh, damn. First day I walk in the place, I'm already getting my hair cut by a huge hair stylist. Like everything was just like this seal of approval. It felt like it on top, of course. And then I got my hair cut by Thomas. Well, he was the second good hair started besides yourself. No, you give me plenty of great kind now. Plenty of great cut, but yes. Oh, that was a really, really good time. And, you know, I just kind of fell in love with, like, the whole team in the whole like atmosphere of it all. And then, ah, you know, some stipulations came along with that. I couldn't just be Zach. I had to be a hair stylist, too. So, you know, uh, I

Brock Goldberg :   26:32
had to go crazy, right? Because we we talked. And what you this is you got a set of guidelines. Yeah, but we set the gun. But the story, what happens next is just so fucking cool. Um, What? We might make these guidelines that, you know, we wanted to continue to work with us. We'll bring it up, but you got to be enrolled to cosmetology school, you know, because for me, I understand the importance. And whatever direction you go afterwards completing this journey in your life, it's gonna be awesome. And I do believe I actually no, I can't see the future, but they'll be great things ahead for you in this career. Anyway, you go in this right? Um, but making that stipulation was important. It was important. And I'm

Zack Goldberg:   27:19
glad it did, though, because, I mean, I'm going up in a place with hair like I gotta be like truthful, you know anymore. Like I can't be too some salesman. No, I'm like, That's not what I want to do. And I needed to create a career around a tune. That's what is given the opportunity for. It's just a craft. Like I said, Like, you can do it on the side with anything like we're businessmen, Hard course. So, like, we're just gonna take in that direction. That's really are N go anyways. Yes, but I'm glad you and Robert did set that stipulation and like then I went out and I matched that. I was gonna go to some hair school and I was still looking for a part time job because I only got one check from you guys like I wasn't like money. I was working. No, no, seven days a week, you know, So did all. I was still looking for a job. I remember. I went through two interviews at Chili's. I was like, I'm trying to get Chili's. I'm vegan. I don't want to be oh, me in here. Like they still didn't call me back in the long run like I was getting rejected. I got rejected from a nursery I went to a nursery, I think I just thought I was like, I was probably a little cocky, but it was a nursery nursery. I came in there with way too much info, but I grow plants, too. I was, you know, I was trying to put myself in a decent environment, but I was just, like, looking for stuff like back and forth. And then nothing was working out because I was supposed to go to hair school like, 34 days a week. And that was 1/2 hour and 1/2. And then I'd have to work school, pay for that. And then, you know, it was gonna put me back, like, thousands of dollars because, you know, you're going to school and everyone everyone knows that's not free. So, you know, uh, knew what I had to do? Yeah. To make myself make money. And they are

Brock Goldberg :   28:47
so crazy. No. Like you signing up for cosmetology school.

Zack Goldberg:   28:52
Yeah, well, in the long run,

Brock Goldberg :   28:54
taking out a $50,000 loan

Zack Goldberg:   28:56
early. And that's what got me to Chicago with you because you guys wanted me to go to Chicago, get a hair show,

Brock Goldberg :   29:02
you fucking Dan.

Zack Goldberg:   29:03
Yeah, And then when we're in Chicago, it was the beginning of April and I was enrolled in here. School's gonna start April 17th. That was my first day. And we were there through, like, the end of March, beginning of April. And that's when I was just trying to sell some brushes to some people hustling, trying to get a discount from Brock. Yeah, so I was like, I'm pretty sure I was walking over to see if I can get someone a temperature on some brushes to make a cell. And then you introduce me to my current boss, my man towards America. And so now I walked up and you were just like, Oh, my gosh, it's my cousin. And I was like, This is not one of you before, but it was

Brock Goldberg :   29:36
perfect because she had always come up to meet, like so many times to marry Dale based out of Burbank, California

Zack Goldberg:   29:43
Toluca Lake, California.

Brock Goldberg :   29:45
Check out her salon. Uh, but that that being said, she was She's always asked me like, oh, come, like work one day or

Zack Goldberg:   29:53
I'm pretty sure she was. She was a moment about

Brock Goldberg :   29:56
working, and I, you know, I can't give you this, Goldberg. But here's one. Yeah, And then And then what happened next? She

Zack Goldberg:   30:05
was really like, Oh, my apprentice right now is looking to go start on our own. Like I'm looking for someone new. And I was like, Wait, hold on. You want to pay me to get my education and work with you out in Los Angeles like, Yeah, and we're in Chicago right now, so I'm like, That's wonderful. Let's connect exchange information. And then that was all, like in, like, 85 to 8 minute window. Yes. Got my 10% approval. Ranbaxy Olsen brushes. And then we finished that that was like that was lit, so I didn't go to hair school. I end up going and seeing her, like I'm pretty sure that same day, instead of going to class, I told them I'm like, I'm out. I knew I was gonna work out with Samarra, like, yeah, she hadn't even give me the go that I was gonna be her apprentice yet. But I was like, I'm not getting any checks from the school like that. I'm not making l sweat off my back right now because I didn't have a job. I didn't have money like that, Like just just trying to live, you know? So I went to her. I thought it was cool. It was really interesting. I worked with her for a full day, and then I went back like, two more times, and we were like, Let's get the ball rolling. So it took six weeks to get the my apprenticeship license so I could start legally doing here with her on so in that time and have taken by, like, eight weeks. But we sent that off. The day I sent it off was the day I literally it was like May and I went to San Diego for four days and from Memorial Day weekend, part of my I remember that and then hopped on the plane in the first place I ever gone on alone, flew to Florida to meet with you. Your mom's clean miraculously got the same exact so crazy. Hers was like an hour early. And then we end up, you bring back to you, and then we just like went toe. That was what we went to Florida realistically for. This whole trip was Ergo, we went a premier Orlando and a huge, huge, huge shoes show. And so we're not there. We end up just like party in two weeks and stuff under my awesome came back. I had a job at Vita Vegan. At that point, I had just gotten a vegan restaurant was finally like something. At least keep some pennies in my pocket right now. And some vegan food in my gut. That was very, very, very happy about it. Yeah, they took me to go do the lightning in a bottle festival jail, like two weeks after I started working with them. Not even that I'm out of five day festival. I can't for five days out of festival this'll ing some vegan food the whole time. So it was so late that I went there for it was right after Chicago. So Chicago Lightning in a bottle. And then it was San Diego. Two weeks in Florida and then we get back from Florida. I was just hustling, keeping everything together Before I could go work with Sameera. I went on my two week vacation Thio my road trip did You were just babbling nonsense, Mom from San Diego to Kansas City, Missouri, and back for a wedding and just like to see some stuff and what not? And that was like a lit trip I did with my best friend, Chelsea. And you know, that was like a crazy, cool experience, like in this one year, like between the age of 23 24. Yeah, and I saw, like, 10 States and went on, like, six airplanes. And I have never been on a plane in my life

Brock Goldberg :   32:50
That's so crazy and never just in that span of time, it's like it's so things

Zack Goldberg:   32:56
just picked up and I mean, I owe it to you. What? I mean, like, I worked my ass off for everything is, But I don't like you. You really helped me and put me in like, these situations in life where doesn't keep building each other, that's what it is. And that goes back to the whole leadership thing in the They're in the beginning of the all this, like you are off leading in directions that you're leading, and I need to be awfully in the directions I need to lead in, and we need to just build ships together and make that coin make that happiness. Yes. You passed all the issues and what not and like life is good. And like ever since then it's been pretty much more sailing. I started with Tamara in July. You guys were let me come back and forth. I lived here four days a week in Bakersfield. Three days of school, working seven days a week between the salon, the restaurant in my class at a fucking kill a bull. I mean, back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. And now I just recently moved here with you guys. Yeah, it's been smooth sailing. Yeah. It still feels like a party, though, does it? Once you're over here in the valley, I guess like l a county anywhere you're in it, there's something to be done. But

Brock Goldberg :   33:53
now its core, you brought life into the house. Good life. Yeah. It's like

Zack Goldberg:   33:57
that's been like for me. Uh, thank you. Anything is fresher than Bakersfield. It's a fresh.

Brock Goldberg :   34:05
So this evolution of Zach Young Zack, man. So yeah, everything's when

Zack Goldberg:   34:09
you make me spit it out. It's like, Oh, shit. What? I've been up to lie exactly been Florida. I'm trying to go back to like my mental like photo books right now. And, like, just like Real log all these things and I like it like, brings back a flood of of just like all these different emotions and loud just just seeing so many different things that I've seen in this year and being in something different environments, meaning something different people. It's like I, like, want to soak it all in, But it's one thing after the next. So I think that's just like the hard part about living a busy lifestyle, and you know that as well. It's just like we make enough time to do this thing, and then we make enough time to do that thing and then not being in the nothing and everything just send that starts to blur together, even though in those moments we were there and we made that appropriate time, I wasn't not present for what I needed to be present for you. But then, like four months down the line of my oh my God, that got blurred vision the whole time, like but the blunt down Zach? Yeah, but But it's just like that's the good part about it. I think like downtime causes, like, what do they say about Children? Like Children? I have free time cause trouble or some shit like that. I'm just a child when

Brock Goldberg :   35:13
you are whenever exact, exact fucking doing it. No, but see, this is your story, man. This is your story. And obviously there's more, you know, in depth, um, parts of your life.

Zack Goldberg:   35:24
I know we haven't talked about my veganism.

Brock Goldberg :   35:26
No, no, that's and that's what we're going, brother, I'm trying to leave the story of the Camptown. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Charlie. Get the fuck out of here. So I so veganism, man. What about

Zack Goldberg:   35:42
that? What made you bring that?

Brock Goldberg :   35:44
What I do know is we had no idea. You

Zack Goldberg:   35:47
know, that's what they usually say about the vegan is like, Oh, how did you know that person was? You know, they told me you were the judge because I swear it's usually one of the things I lead with. To be honest with you, it's just like it's a big part of me. And and like everyone, Yeah, you're out of it. Even Elissa today she was like telling me I don't like to put a label on it per se because, you know, if I mess up or like, whatever it is, But I'm like, I want to put a label in this situation because then when I when I walk out and I'm like, I'm vegan, Yeah, people are like OSHA. He just said vegan like And then you start People sweat because they realize all the stuff that goes behind it. Like they all seen the videos of the cows getting beat and stuff like that. We all seen the chickens like everyone seems so much that violent stuff that, like they know. So, like, everyone gets filling the guilty right away. I don't want to lead with that per se, but I mean, like, shit we got we got a very little time that till they say, like, shits really supposed to pop off of this planet. We can only see it like places like with all the hot topics going on. Like Australia on loan. Yeah. I mean, it makes my blood boil like I let alone that well,

Brock Goldberg :   36:48
and that's I think we're at this dynamic. No, no, no, it's true. But I think that this dynamic shift in in in our culture and Westernized cultures and cultures all across the globe that we're starting to understand is some of us not not not all of us. But some of us are starting to understand the implications like yourself.

Zack Goldberg:   37:09
A much larger amount of people.

Brock Goldberg :   37:10
Yeah, yeah, but where is I? Do you see a day when everyone's just not eating meat or d? I wish

Zack Goldberg:   37:18
I could like it just seems so improbable because there are so many things like, It's just like, you know, your own negativity. Like I was talking about my own negativity, Draw me back in the world like my veganism is something I feel like so positive about. I'm like, yeah, positive, positive, positive And then, like, my negativity side is like when you're talking to someone and they're just like, Oh, but I love meet my whole family loves me. It's delicious, and they have nothing other to say. Then, like some sensory like pleasure that they get that they don't want to make a decision over. And then I get so like like put off by that because it's unfortunate because I understand how much like a century pleasure means to someone. Yeah, and like Why? Like it's hard to tell someone else to take it away when, like, it's been so hard for me. But I I understand the heavy implications of it. So I kind of come at it with, like, a kind of an aggressive approach sometimes because I want people to feel that and get that, too, because I get that people like the taste of meat, and for me it's not. I didn't like the taste of me. I fucking love the taste of me like it was good like, but it's it's not just me. It's animals like I love the taste of cow. I love the taste of pig and chicken and, like, I don't like that doesn't sound cute to me like I don't like. I don't like the concept of, like, you know, slaughter and all the little the animals on the farm, like your little farmhouse they used to play with when your kid Yeah, that was just a bunch of plastic set that's probably sitting in a landfill. No. Yes, is literally just a bunch of animals that you're gonna have a facade, a ring. But like there's, you know, it's just like I was telling you. Like, uh, you know, one of the things that bothers me that push me vegan is like seeing like people care so much about. We're watching Don't fuck with cats. People get so put off by what people do to a cat, and then they get so put off by what people do to, like, you know, like innocent, like pets and stuff. And like the kangaroo I showed you today from Australia, that was apparently people. But I

Brock Goldberg :   38:59
do think that there is a difference between the don't fuck with cats and the American and just, you know, culture that we have of mass produced mass farm.

Zack Goldberg:   39:08
Yeah, like people are blind to like, What's going on there? Almost like they'll see it like all that sucks. But I still like my meat. It's still what we doing. What do you expect me to live off of? And I'm like, Do I look frail to people? Do I look like I'm know about sometimes like my

Brock Goldberg :   39:21
butt here? But here's the thing, right? Do you know, it's kind of like a two part question and what I'm gonna say um, number one is Do you think that the vegan diet is good for every single diet? Um, And what? What your thoughts on, like, free range, you know, truly free range. Wild card. Um, fish animals. Yeah, yeah,

Zack Goldberg:   39:47
yeah. Okay. So, like, as far as like like veganism being for everyone, I really do think it is for everyone. Like some people like to believe it's not, but like you can go and find the things that in meat these days, like we have so many resource is like vitamin cabinet in general, like, Yeah, but some people don't take supplements, but, like, honestly, if your body is not getting what it needs to from a vegan diet, you probably need to be taking supplements anyways

Brock Goldberg :   40:09
and for sure for sure.

Zack Goldberg:   40:11
Like having like, even like you, Like you. You can't do gluten very well. That I have No allergies are like soy allergies, like they say, like a vegan diet doesn't work for them. But it's like there's so many other things we can eat. Like so many things that people think are necessities like other place in the world. They can't even eat them like they're not even there. It's not with abundant like they shouldn't even have been. We're out and sometimes not saying like support some paleo diet or anything, I thought, because I don't necessarily that works either. But I think if you're willing to find what works for you, it's out there. But if you're willing to settle and say like the meat works for me, this is what works for me then like you're going to do that and you're going to suffer the repercussions in the long run. But I don't like. I think it works for everyone, but I think getting it across toe making it work for everyone is the struggle with building the right diet,

Brock Goldberg :   40:57
having, you know, a vegan based diet, and that gives you all the nutrients, the amino acids, the you know, the proteins. Yes, you can get them from supplements. Yes, you can get them from, um, you know, different types of of like tofu and soy based products on and so on. But toe actually have all of those things. It's not affordable for a lot of people, most

Zack Goldberg:   41:23
people, but I mean the glow, vegetables and soybeans are like affordable. It's like what we feed the horses.

Brock Goldberg :   41:28
It's not even just that I don't

Zack Goldberg:   41:31
want little leisure on a global

Brock Goldberg :   41:33
scale on a global scale. And just here's the thing that we've made eating food so quick, so easy on Teoh have to go out and do it the correct way. One supplements costs a lot of money, and that is usually what people have to resort to because they're not getting. And I'm not saying like the vegan diet, Um, I think is good and I'm all for it. Ah, 101 100%. I just don't think that it is doable by on a large scale globally. Yes, and I

Zack Goldberg:   42:04
need to be done globally because essentially, we've always eaten animals and, like that's always been a thing. And like some people need to eat some animals because I guess if you're talking about like bodily, I think everyone can survive off a vegan diet like financially or like environmentally like where they're geographically like, they might not be able to live a vegan livestock, Yes, but those people usually aren't the ones with the really high impact on the earth. They're the ones feeling the really high impact of the people that are eating the mass amount of meats, you know,

Brock Goldberg :   42:31
im struggle with that. What we've been doing to the world. And, um well, I was people. It's a generation before you and I Yeah, that caused these implications. And we are the first generation that is having to deal with the, um, issues that have arrived because of not carrying for the world in the way that we should have in the past. You know, 152 100 years, and primarily the biggest chunk, you know, in the earlier years, as caused more and more issues

Zack Goldberg:   43:02
actually farming. It's really been the big issue. And that's kind of where I go with a lot of it is like, you know, people can eat me and like their sustainability with me, I don't think there's a cruelty free version of meat. So if you stand for that, there's not You mean you're killing something that doesn't

Brock Goldberg :   43:14
work that way, like killing it in the wild? You know, Joe Rogan, it uses a bow, and he fucking does it in a way that we would have done back and

Zack Goldberg:   43:24
I get Really, Doctor, do you need to do that in, like the environment we're in and the climate we're in and like what we're doing, is that necessary? Like I think it needs to go. But

Brock Goldberg :   43:33
these types of animals, though, this is what has been done in the wild forever. And this isn't done on a wide scale in a large scale. You know, it's it's a way that we have car me. You know what they did, you know, 100 too. And

Zack Goldberg:   43:46
I would appreciate everything more if there wasn't factory for me. That's a fact. Like, that is the fact we don't even I've probably still back again. And I probably would have never seen the light of, like, the animal side of it. And I like I hate saying that because I'm glad I've seen the light now. But like, if factory farming didn't make things so violent and like, so aggressive and make it seem like such industrialized, like systematic abuse on animals and like this, like the way it goes down and then I also don't like like I feel like the people that don't get talked about are the ones that do the slaughtering like I don't necessarily want meat if it means some other man has to go there. And like pinup cows all day long in Sodom, dude like care about's got eventually destroy someone so

Brock Goldberg :   44:30
and you can't videotape them. There's, like loss that against that.

Zack Goldberg:   44:34
So, like they just get free range abuse. To be honest with you, you're like That's got to free range to it it that plays into if animals were still more free

Brock Goldberg :   44:41
range of animals free range after I honestly that there wouldn't be these type of issue, right, it would be a different world. Uh

Zack Goldberg:   44:50
oh. Totally, totally way wouldn't be in the big climate crisis where nearly quite as quickly or in as deep as we are right now, if it wasn't for factory farming and having that the dairy industry and like California like it's

Brock Goldberg :   45:04
looking like what they're doing, you know, in the Amazon rain forest and a $2 their factory based farming exactly 5/3

Zack Goldberg:   45:11
higher in those areas where cattle farms are being raised and like that's wild like there's already plenty of fires going on when people are intentionally setting fires because they want to put more Connell in. It's like Brazil has gone through far

Brock Goldberg :   45:25
too much like it's so crazy to think like how you can conceptually agree on the fact that we should be doing it this way. Fucking burning down large portions of the rainforest Toe fucking do this. You know, factory farm, mono cropping. There's just destroying the world. And, you know, and I don't know any other way out of it at this point because of the population growth. I mean, 80 are that the billions and billions. I was just 80 billion.

Zack Goldberg:   45:57
It feels like when you're in l. A traffic

Brock Goldberg :   46:01
seriously, seriously. But it's been growing at an exponential rate. And and, man, I am not bright enough to have an answer on how we're going to stop

Zack Goldberg:   46:12
it. That's gonna start here that the growth of the people I truly feel like that is gonna slow down because in the next coming years, not like five years per se, but the next 20 years, like we're going to see less available fresh water, less available foods like bigger climate issues, more droughts in certain areas and like it's gonna cause a problem where people aren't gonna have the luxuries of having kids and having all these things and then all these places that are getting wiped out by climate change by, like, fires and I floods and hurricanes and, you know, just like the amount of, like, I know, media covers it much more. And I know I researched these things much more because it's something I care about. But it just seems so much more present. What? Everything. And even to hear someone be able to deny that, like, freaks me out because it literally is like there's too much evidence against it to cause it to be a low.

Brock Goldberg :   47:06
I think that I think that there could be an answer to help some of this, if it works out correctly, is the genetically modified lab version of meats that we're growing. Um, if they are sound and safe and our bodies can handle it, um and we could do that on a large scale. Well, that solves a fucking huge problem. Um,

Zack Goldberg:   47:28
but what kind of problem is that? Solving in my eyes,

Brock Goldberg :   47:30
I mean, you're solving the slaughtering of animals and the continuation of knocking down parts of the world that are part of mother earth.

Zack Goldberg:   47:42
Like economic. We can go to well, no animals that die well economically. We can go to plant and take over these lands and turn the minute places. We can grow food and sustainable food for ourselves rather than necessarily needing to grow. No, no, no. But all the all

Brock Goldberg :   47:56
the vegetables and all that shit would still grow naturally, Not

Zack Goldberg:   47:58
financially. What people need to be yakking morning is fixing things like cleaning up things and fixing the ocean. And rather than like finding a new way to feed people like we already have a very solid, natural way to feed people with a vegan diet, what we need to do is repair what we've done and go back in and do things like put our time into the science of fixing the coral reefs and making sure we don't like getting like the tar spell in Brazil getting cleaned out

Brock Goldberg :   48:26
the life civic Great Pacific garbage patch. Yeah, Yeah, like what it is, it's larger than, like the size of Texas. I'm pretty sure I

Zack Goldberg:   48:34
know I'm pretty sure that

Brock Goldberg :   48:35
I could be wrong. And this young freaking kid at 16 years old created this invention that had the ability to start picking up and cleaning up the trash. And not only just the trash in our oceans, but also in, like, the rivers and things leading to the ocean. Um, where it all starts Because some parts of the globe, they're still throwing massive, massive amounts of trash into the frickin rivers. And yet, and if we can stop it before it goes into the ocean, that's that would be huge.

Zack Goldberg:   49:09
I clean up the record. Yeah. Had exact finding the story spaces. That's always been a big solution

Brock Goldberg :   49:15
there. Yeah, I'm the source. Okay, so let's see. How about there's too many sources? No. Absolutely. So there is. How big is the great Pacific garbage patch? I would say Biggest shit. Yeah, bigger than the size of Texas. So watch this. So it's definitely we were right about that great Pacific garbage patch. That's just while I clean up Fox. Man, this is a brilliant

Zack Goldberg:   49:36
but like finding solutions like this. Yeah. I mean, wasted to fix things like, I don't know, like

Brock Goldberg :   49:41
I own Found it. Don't get trough. Is the ocean cleanup successfully catches plastic in the great Pacific garbage patch. Today we announced the system 001 b is successfully capturing and collecting plastic debris. Sze After one year of testing, we have succeeded in developing a self contained system in the Great Pacific garbage patch that is using the natural forces of the ocean to passively catch and concentrate plastic, thereby confirming that, thereby confirming the most important principle behind the cleanup concept. Uh, that was first presented by boy and see a ah, he was on. I think it was on Joe Rogan's podcast. Um, and he did this at the Ted Conference in October 2012. That being said, it's the ocean cleanup. Um, it's frickin and saying, Yeah, guys, check it out. Ocean cleanup.

Zack Goldberg:   50:31
Yeah, I wonder if that has any like, um, side effects to like the animals as well Be invited. No,

Brock Goldberg :   50:35
no, no, it doesn't. It doesn't drop. Yeah, he asked him like he's a catch fish, and absolutely not. And he's like he has this goal to clean up. Ah, I believe half of all of the great Pacific garbage patch. Five years, right? Yeah, and most importantly, create the cleanup systems in the rivers. The good and that's the way it is. Absolutely, absolutely so I think that we're on this brink right now, man, where the world can go one way or the world could go the other way, you know? And, um, I'm optimistic, So I like to believe that this ah, all is going to go in the right direction. There's gonna be ups and downs like everyone's life, right? Think of it as a life span.

Zack Goldberg:   51:26
We're not down right now. Really?

Brock Goldberg :   51:27
That. But you know what, Congar? Oh, we don't know, right? Ah, but these thes things, like the ocean cleanup in even genetically modified meats and thehe bility to connect with one another at such a large scale in the amount of information that is at our fingertips is fucking awesome. But in some cases, that, uh, causes some issues. Let's say I sure very sure. So

Zack Goldberg:   51:53
don't get me started on. Are you?

Brock Goldberg :   51:54
Uh, so I don't know, man. I'm I'm just I like to be optimistic, but I do love that. Um, you know, you're so passionate, right? Yeah. You got that. You got

Zack Goldberg:   52:06
your passion based personal passion. It didn't it in life, you know? Yeah.

Brock Goldberg :   52:09
Yeah, for sure. So what's Ah, what's what's next? You're gonna keep riding the wave.

Zack Goldberg:   52:14
Ah, yeah. I mean, like, it's hard to think of what's next when everything has just been like, you know, when you when you find yourself truly living in the movement, you know, 100%. But it's like so many things been going on it right? And right now it's just really like I'm in a stationary period where I've gotta sit and and just hone in what's going on right now Like I had a busy year last year. Well, we're still going all the same places this year, doing the same kind of stuff. So, you know, I've just gotta learn howto build a life that works with that and then also sit back and make sure I'm practicing my new craft and like making sure I'm practicing my new idea of of business and family and all the different stuff like I've gotta work with right now and just, like, kind of like focus on that cause I don't want to get myself like, too ahead of the game and, like started sprinting down the road because, like, I always want things like too quick and already find myself doing that we were actually just talking about that beforehand and like, I just want to make sure that, yeah, I am building relationships solidly. I'm building my foundation in here, solidly. I'm making my my mindset towards that. My business ideas of what I could do with this and like, what we're gonna be able to do with this solid and like, really redirecting, like, is like, What can make me money and like what I can do that necessarily makes me money that isn't like a passion or a goal or anything. I thought just like learning side house was like So, like, stepping back in like watching for opportunities and stuff. I'm chasing a lot and, like, I kind of can't just stop and like, what? There's so much going on around me. No, like, watch for the right opportunity once again jumped. Like you said, it's the same thing with the world. How's the opportunity right now to go one direction or the other? Really. And same thing was said about the decisions I made earlier. Yeah, kind of seems to be the theme is like we have the option to jump or not to jump. And like I've I've jumped and like I hit my right direction. And now I'm just like, you gotta hit the cruise so we can weaken, grind and build and solidify and then wait for the opportunity to jump when it's approached and keep on going. Yeah, and like, just like you like I don't know, like you started here like, 10 years ago now? Yeah, and it's the things you're doing right now that hair has gotten you to almost don't even really revolve around hair. Necessarily. No,

Brock Goldberg :   54:29
no. So it's crazy. It's tze really crazy man. And that's why I always tell you like no expectation for sure, But, you know, just just stay passionate, Stay motivated, state driven, be open minded. You know, I believe that so many people can get their fucking blinders thrown. I'm pretty easily, um, in life, and I'm going to say just because we're in l A. Because I don't believe in that ship, but, um, and be open minded about everything and just keep on doing what you're doing, because it's the hard work that has really gotten you here, and it's d ability to take risk. Man, you're you're good at taking rescue. You fucking of rolled up each time. So, um, if you double down, no. If you have

Zack Goldberg:   55:14
a high risk, high reward man, you do. That's a good example. Like,

Brock Goldberg :   55:18
and no one to pull back and no one to fucking do it. You have God, like more courage than I do andan that sense. But if you I didn't say yeah, thank you. Thank you. You know, if you were looking back at a younger you a few years ago, What if you could say anything Thio that younger self, Um, knowing what you know. Now, what

Zack Goldberg:   55:44
would knock your shit off? Not your fucking set off, man. Like I am always just like looking for, like, some, like, cop out there. Like, I'm looking for some opportunity to say, like, it wasn't me. It wasn't me. Like life did this like, but like fuck it, man. Like it's you less man up, get the situation and, like us, find your way. Like, do what you need to, like, quit throwing these petty bodies like this, talking a mountain just like get shit done, man. And like, now that I feel like I've been, like, really trying to, like, get shit done and like taking Hold that Nick, you know, And that goes along with, like, even like you don't have to be humble, but you got to be humbled and there's a time and a place, but like hell fucking yacht, like I have really busted my ass over the last five years of my life, I have really worked to be where I'm at right now. And it's not like I'm sitting in some badly living on. I'm sitting in the lane to get to my Bentley and kind of feel and like that's That's just like, rather, that's the way it's gotta go like burned. Yeah, I got to be happy, but I got to be proud of it, like I have to respect myself and, like, I have to be able to say, like hell, yeah, you did it like there's like, a ton of hands that have reached out and help me. But like I had to physically you do the work. I did the work I had to reach out and grab that hand to like You can only be pulled up if you're trying to, So that's the way I've looked at it. like I I believe in myself. I'm super happy. But I also know, like, what's gotten me, who has gotten me hearing. Like how I'm gonna continue to get there, like the look of it like shit. Like just even going back to the five minutes of meeting Tamara reconstructed my whole capability in

Brock Goldberg :   57:21
the whole fucking capabilities lies. You were just about to drop 15 k and to go to a cosmetology school in Bakersfield, California

Zack Goldberg:   57:29
in Bakersfield, California field bitch. Yeah, I

Brock Goldberg :   57:32
know. But like straight up, bro, I could easily be on meth right now. Be honest. Yes, you don't have

Zack Goldberg:   57:40
Like, I'm good. I'm good. Honestly, I could very well usually think God, I'm gay because I could have someone pregnant right now, like that's a good you know, There's so many other places like it, But like, I could be $50,000 more and that's it. Be not getting paid to go to school. I could be getting a low income like education. And now I'm in a spot where sometimes it's hard to recognize what it was, but like it's also like I'm in a spot that is so much better. Then I ever could imagine myself being in as far as what my education looks like. My financial situation like, Yeah, I'm getting taught one on one, working for someone getting paid and getting tips and getting my education and I in the long run, I'm technically less out of death. And when I started and I'll have a license in the end. So it's like, stir That only makes sense like there's no math that could rule against that

Brock Goldberg :   58:33
dude. That's it's such a fucking awesome story. Like, even if you're not a hairdresser, you you don't even just looking and listening to your story. It just it blows my fucking mind, you know? And it's so cool toe watch. You grow into the man that you are, and it's funded. This has been my very first podcast, and it's been awesome.

Zack Goldberg:   58:57
Yeah, it's been rather enjoyable in my, uh

Brock Goldberg :   59:00
ah, Any last words. My brother,

Zack Goldberg:   59:02
man. Just keep it up like same thing I got to give to myself back then would be the same thing I'd give to me. And you, like now is just like keep it up, get your shit together, like just keep everything. Keep this momentum you have like this This beautiful attitude for life. Like the way you keep drawing people in like that's a big aspect of it, too. Is like how you bring people up. Like, you know, there's so many Sounds like I'm just like I'm, like, a new case. As far as like, rocks, like helps, like rocks come ups in life would like the way he's help people out. And, like, I'm lucky for them. Like my opportunity. I want to thank you for that. I wantto, uh, also think that that once again, the spontaneity of the world. Yeah. Yeah. Just like I wasn't even last night. I wasn't even supposed to be on a pod count. No. And then, like everything mixed around and non like your first pot.

Brock Goldberg :   59:51
Dude, it's It's great. Needless to say, My God, I'm so fucking high right now on the hot line, like in the background. Like Dan. This actually wasn't really for me. I'm happy.

Zack Goldberg:   1:0:07
I'm happy to hear that. It feels really good at this. Feels natural. You sound really great on here. It's just like you. You've worked yourself up in your environments as well, and you have the right to say like I fucking deserve this. Like, this is another one of my moments Like I've continued to shine. I'm gonna continue to shine our brother and like no, you man, you know I am. But, yes, you're gonna continue to shine the way doing they're gonna great, like you're doing things like like, you don't need anyone's approval for this like you never did. Like you literally said, I'm making a fucking podcast. People around either rally around you that are like, make it fucking podcast and you're like, OK, I'm doing it with or without you like, but we're with you and you're like, Okay, but I'm doing it on and I'm like, fucking d'oh! So it's just like it's It's great, like you do what you want to do, like always. Like it's always like a brock show. Ah, it works like not like any type of arrogant way Like Brock lives. His life according to how Brock wants to live is like and that's exactly the way that people fucking shit Lovett and like you taught me how to, like, deal with a lot of my own things like, it's nice to be living with another another Goldberg. That is a different angle of Goldberg. Then I'm typically used to next generation where

Brock Goldberg :   1:1:15
somebody told my therapist, like, straight up he goes like, what does it mean to be a Goldberg? And I got it was like, just after I was like, dropping. Yeah. No, fuck. I love this guy. He's amazing. But that being said, um, he has were being what it means to be a Goldberg. And we had talked about this before, but, like I so disassociated myself, kind of from like that past Goldberg and I align myself with this next generation of gunners and, um, we have to continue to push forward and anyone everyone fucking everyone, man, life is too short. It's the It's a blink of a fucking yeah, So I know people all across the globe. They go through atrocities, man, and I'm very sorry, but you have to be able to try your hardest to live your life under your own rules while respecting the people around you. Because, you know, I do not want to leave this earth without saying fuck man. Like I came here, I did what I wanted. I fucking made amazing fucking memories of people that I truly fucking love family, the whole nine. And you needed your way, man. You know, doing your fucking lay. Absolutely. End up, dude. Ladies and gentle man. Thank you so much for listening to back your story. Have a good one, motherboard.