The Self Defense Guru Of Los Angeles! Mr. Brian Kahn

spk_0:   0:01
All right, all right, all right. How's everyone doing? My name is Brock, and I want to thank you so much for Tune Into Back to your Story, a podcast about real people in real stories. This is Story number 23 my guest today is the world renowned Briancon. He's a legendary fitness instructor. You've seen them all over Instagram spreading that message of love, peace and positivity. It was fantastic getting to hear his story, you know, on a side note. We did have a little bit of a technical difficulty at the end. So the podcast does get cut short about just a few minutes. Uh, that being said, that's the beauty of recording podcast. Sometimes things are right. And every once in a while there's a little hiccup. Well, that being said, this is the story of brand con from the Land of Mystery. With dreams become reality. Always listening to stories from the past, the present and the future. This is back. No, just joking. How you doing, man? Really? Could you and I, uh this is the first time meeting this it is, and I was actually talking to my cousin a little bit ago while you were coming over here. And this has just been fucking so amazing doing the podcast, having so many people do what you you did. And when I'm about to say is that I've had a lot of people come on. And they've been, like, you know, a friend of this person or whatever radio, and, uh, I've never met him before And they will come all the way out here an hour. You know, in our African uber ride, Dr whatever it is, um, to come share their story and have a conversation. And I appreciate that.

spk_1:   2:00
Of course, man. Thanks for having me.

spk_0:   2:01
Yeah, you know, I had to come on the podcast because, you know, Penelope introduced us. She spoke really highly of you on. And then she introduced me to your stuff, your world man, and for the people listening for the first time. Um, if you don't mind, just tell him a little bit. You know, about kind of what you do in your world.

spk_1:   2:19
Um, so my world, Yeah, it's very interesting as its across crossbreed, because I also do martial arts and fighting and stuff. But I also do group fitness as well, which is completely different dynamical in itself. Um, I've been doing that for man 10 11 years now.

spk_0:   2:34
Damn, that's crazy. What? Um, what got you into the world of fitness and martial arts and, you know, all that fun

spk_1:   2:41
stuff. So it really had it started to do when I was in school with college. Okay. Gonna quote didn't last very long. Uh, but I went to, Ah, the art institute in Santa Monica. Okay, so one of my instruct one my instructors, one my teachers. Yes, I happen to be a Jew as well. And we got along very well through that. And, um and I had asked him, you know, I knew personally, like, in order to learn something and really do it, I need to be in it. Yeah. My can learn from a book. I can't learn from a classroom. I need I need to be right there showing with bun. You're pressing like, how are we going to do this? Yes, and so that was my mind set. Um, I talked to him, Let him know, like, eight man like, Do you have any work outside of here? Like you got the studio. Let me come in. I'll just sit down and watch and and you obviously let me come right away. But, you know, map, maybe a like a week. A month later, he was like, Yo, come through When All the way to Burbank And, um Yeah, man, I was probably 18 19 years old, sat there and, you know, watched him do his thing. We were editing, uh, in order, Say was working with just a singer, okay? And just watching how he did his Technion in building the songs, which that was incredible in itself. Um, So I learned that. And then as we were seeing their his friend, he's like, my friend about to come over is my best friend, you know, just letting you know his, um his name is John Wolf, and but it had done it was a bodyguard. Okay, Okay, that's cool, you know, And get 1918 years old, and, uh, obviously we're smoking a little bit of wheat. And I was like, No, no, no. I'm intimidated. That comes through. And man is like, probably 52 at the time, OK? And he's just all tatted up. Bald head beard and he just brought Yeah, And, uh, so he grabbed my arm and then start David, He's like, Do you know how to defend that Right there. And that was like, uh yeah, sure. Totally. Yeah, I got that. And, uh, and then that was really the end of that conversation, But Okay. You know, as my relationship with Ted progressed, he started. Tell me, like who? John waas and what he knew. And his background was in everything that you can imagine. Krav Maga was one of his backgrounds, but he's done karate, Muay Thai wrestling. Boxing is pretty much done everything. Um, he's trained by his rabbi. There we go. Yeah. Yeah. So he was just needed that his whole life since he was 18 years old or younger than excuse me but his profession and say about 17 he was jumping on stage and bouncing people off. And like New York Jersey Shore's Yes, I have. Indeed.

spk_0:   5:16
I asked greater pressure

spk_1:   5:18
s on my relationship with him kind of grew, so I started investigating what crop got was and you know, I hung out with them multiple times after that, and I will just pick his brain you know, just telling your stories. You know, what would you experience situations you've been in and his remarkable man. So it changed my life. And so just hearing what he was capable of doing And obviously being a Jew man, obviously a zwelling, I could relate to that. And, um, not having, like, a father figure in my life at that time, it was very important. And yeah, I found somebody that can That's something I can absolutely could dio and, uh, you know, research crop got type today, don't you, Dio? Sure enough, this really cool video popped up, and it was obviously the guy that was eventually train with his name was Royal Gang. And if you look him up, he's crazy and a good way in a good way. Way. So he was Ah, He trained the Israeli special forces in Israel, and all this stopped two time national crime. I got champion, and the more I looked him up, the more just became legit. Right? So I asked John, take a look at him. This is somebody that's gonna do right by me, and he's looked at him. He's like, Oh, this is the Yes he's gonna make you a very good black belt. Yeah, like are cool. And then obviously, the next day, I said, I go to his class and turn up. He was in Los Angeles, so it's, like, all very weird.

spk_0:   6:37
Yeah. Second, all of these things are lining up. Yeah, Absolutely.

spk_1:   6:40
Because again, crop got wasn't that bigot. That home was probably, like, one place in Los Angeles, and that wasn't somewhere to go. I want to go like yeah, yeah, yeah. Do was train the military like that's what I'm looking for. Um, when I did that for about five years, 56 years and probably within the first year and 1/2 I started teaching right away. Just because I don't know, man, I can't explain it. Yeah, that's crazy. It just I was natural at it, you know? And he obviously recognized that. And, um, and John obviously saw that as well within me too. So you saw my potential before I even saw myself. And that's crazy. Yeah. And you know what? Progress with the crop. McGarr and I started venturing out into different martial arts and Dutch kickboxing boxing Do jitsu like pretty much everything of it tomorrow. Do you want to be a killer?

spk_0:   7:29
Yeah. Was that, um, when you were younger? Was that something that you you wanted to do? Where you physically fit? Did you play in sports? Was fighting was any of that part of who you were until you got into 18 19 years

spk_1:   7:42
old? I wish I could say it was

spk_0:   7:44
all right,

spk_1:   7:44
but it really wasn't a lot. Not to the degree that what you would think. I didn't grow admit in a very bad neighborhood, per se, you know, grew up in the quote unquote. The suburbs of Cleveland, Ohio, wasn't to like, you know, to white, But it was It was mixed, right? But at the same time, like I wasn't in any kind of danger at any point, I'm sure I could have found myself. I just always I don't know, man, my energy does not does not attract that. To be honest, I've always been able to defuse any situation and be able to walk away with it without Eddie computation. Listen with my fucking brother, that's a different story. I That's family. Yes, family that I'm told. That's like you're saying no soldier around like e, I would say 16 years old, I started watching HBO Boxing. Okay. Floyd Mayweather? Yes. Ask. Available. Yeah. Back you in their prime when they were really starting to come up and, uh, again, like, I wasn't very big socially. You know, I'm saying, like going out with friends all the time, like no one to kick it. Yeah. Chill, smoke and down. Relax and watch the fights. And I would just slowly start to learn from their watching what they were doing, why they were doing it. And, um, and became fascinated with the sport because I understood that it was more to just throwing a punch. There's intention. There's thought process behind it. There's setups, right? Absolutely. To get to that one. I hit you. Yeah, Um, so that's kind of what I found that, um, with the boxing stuff. So it's kind of what set off, you know, fresh air with the martial arts. And then as it progressed, I found myself in a very vulnerable situation when I was in my first college quote unquote for certain scholars, right. So I was just got my tattoo and and I got my tattoo not thinking anything behind it? No. You don't know.

spk_0:   9:32
Shouldn't like your deal yet. What should people got crosses all the fucking time?

spk_1:   9:35
That was my That was That was exactly my excuse for that. So weird that you say

spk_0:   9:39
that I don't mean to stop you because, um, you know, you and I, you know, both being Jewish, right? Uh, if you get across tattooed on you, it's like there's not a lot of thought put into it, right, Miles, the tattoo itself. I'm getting the star David tatted on you. Like for me? I didn't think and really anything about it when I got it right. But as an adult, you just see how the world works. And, um, it can influence other people's decisions. Good or bad or just indifferent. Um, did you put a lot of thought into that? What was that? Like?

spk_1:   10:14
I went in. I want something means something to me. Of course, that was the one thing that resonated with me. I wasn't going to get like a tiger. Yeah, my initials were, but you know, it is a stupid I wanted something that did your fucking initial. Yeah, when Something that means something Yeah, And I saw that. And I was like, That's the one. And I just I saw that's hit. There was no second guessing it. And the minute I got back to my college, I soon realized that I was not like everybody else anymore. And that was a big turning point from me, because then I realized, OK, so before I was just like you. And now because I got a tattoo that that separates me because apparently I went to a very religious school. I didn't know that intentionally. It was just like it just happened. Yeah, yeah. Um, and then I was at a fraternity house, you know, when that had been at multiple times just hanging out during a Saturday, watching the Ohio State football game. Same shit that was in the college. I was going to, By the way, just this. F y I, uh level How state. Yes. Um, So I was at this fraternity party and my buddy quote unquote, we're gonna put that in there again. Um, we were in the president's. I want to say room, but like, you know, his like lounge area with all the brothers is like, 20 dudes in here, and they're all drinking, having a good time. And my buddies like you Can I see that microphone that you guys were using before, Like early that day? Like Shaun of people made different noises and stuff and, like, yeah, so one of the guys goes in the back, gets this microphone, pulls it out, and then sure enough, he just starts saying Jews are not allowed to use the microphone. Cakes are not allowed to use the my shot. The fuck o r o. So I'm like, Wait, What? Yeah, man. Everybody just Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I sat there. Quiet. What am I gonna do? My body is like, Oh, no, no, no. That's not my friend. Oh, no, no, no. I'm not with them out. It's not like that. And I was like, What was going on right now? So two seconds later, I got up my matter there, and I'm just kind of like taking that situation like what the fuck has happened, You know, like, that was kind of weird. How weird? Real fast. Real, real fast. And, uh, So after that situation happened, I knew that I was not. Yeah, you know, like everybody else. You know, before I was my was Brian. Brian Combat it. I know for sure is my friend. That's not Yeah. So my vulnerability showed me that. Okay, there's something else going on out here that I was completely unaware of. Of course, I didn't think I was subject to that or anybody you know, saying like, I didn't had no oblivious broke.

spk_0:   12:57
Damn, that's that's Ah, that's Ah, that's fucking mind boggling to think. Great. Um, in 22,010 let's say one was a 2000 and 2015. Motherfucker was 10 years ago. 12 years ago. A dozen 8 2008 right? Seven. Write a fucking black dudes about to get nominated for president. The United States of America. Right, Barack Obama. And at that time, and even still now, or I don't know, yes. Ah, and for forever. Ah, we're dealing with this oppression and vulnerability being Jewish and especially now that but we have tattoos right on. And it Well, that's something we're not supposed to. Yeah, it's on that Fuck that dude like I'm sorry. I know, but, um, but still is no different than someone going to get across no different than someone to go and get something. Whatever is part of their faith or their religion or their belief, right? Why does it make us so different and have to go through situations like that in our life? Right? It's weird

spk_1:   14:11
as weird. It will. It is green and culture. Yeah, yeah, thousands of years. It's something that people aren't even aware of until it's right in front of face. You can hear it on the media and all that stuff, but it's not. It's not really it's it's You

spk_0:   14:26
do hear it right. But it's not the same as, you know, someone being someone being Hispanic, someone being, you know, Asian someone other than white, right? Well,

spk_1:   14:37
I think the problem with that is

spk_0:   14:38
in America because it happens everywhere for your lawyers. Is that that Is that is it

spk_1:   14:43
because we assimilate, weaken, blend in much better? So it's like, you know, they feel like we're doing one up on them in the sense

spk_0:   14:50
and why, right? Like, I think it's

spk_1:   14:52
just not knowing, because I do know that the Jewish culture and culture encompasses all different races. Yeah, it does. You know, the the Massad going in tow. I think it was Sudan or something like that. I eat in Ethiopia. Could be wrong. Whatever. It was one of those

spk_0:   15:08
Konami's couldn't get that,

spk_1:   15:11
but they had a whole operation where they were. They were pulling out African Sudan. Ian's to bring him to Israel's

spk_0:   15:17
Jewish. Yeah, I do believe in

spk_1:   15:20
Jewish Indians, Jewish, Japanese, all over the world. You can trace the blood through too many cultures and races, says a very unique thing that we had. That isn't really talked about as much because that is so true because every every every race has one.

spk_0:   15:35
Yeah, like it's a great Yeah,

spk_1:   15:37
But with the Jewish religion to Jewish culture, it's It's a multi.

spk_0:   15:41
Yeah, multifaceted. I mean, because it's it's for me on the people. Um, always ask me. It's like two things like, you know, I'm not religious, right? I'm not religious by hit by any means. I probably believe more in the simulation more than anything else. But with that being said, um, culturally now Minju 110%. I identify myself as being a Jew, Um, and that's very unique because Christian Catholicism's at Muslim for sure, like a but especially in America, over time of United States of America. Right now, Um, it's it's very, very unique. Ah, and it's just a weird time right now to with with everything going on. And so it's like you have that tattoo. What did that make you feel inside? For the very first time you felt riel? A less than

spk_1:   16:35
would that feel like, man, it was intense because it didn't. It wasn't just a one off. That's a continuation thing, right? So I'm remembering that with every instance that I've gone through, right. So if I'm at work and somebody looks in my tattoo, I'm looking at their facial expressions. How were they observing me right now? Right? I've worked in restaurants. I've done the fitness thing, you know, interacting with thousands of people. I know 1000 of those. Not every single of those per people are gonna agree with who I am or what I stand for. Whatever for sure. Um and I acknowledge that, but at the same time that I also know, like who I am and you know the person I am, And that's completely different from a nine grand cultural ideology right now. But, you know, some people just unaware of at the end of the day almost listen to a podcast. And they were asked the question, How many Jews do you think there are in the world?

spk_0:   17:29
I know this is a question, and you will get way wrong.

spk_1:   17:33
Eso The reply was, uh, the lowball. This was 500 million.

spk_0:   17:37
I mean, we both know it's not even close was like 30 million worldwide. 15,000,015 16 baby, you know, And it

spk_1:   17:47
that's just like, that's a minority of a minority of minority. And we're here just trying to survive, in a sense, right? We have our own one ST Thank God that that even exists, you know, because if it didn't, you know, who knows?

spk_0:   17:59
I would have people on this podcast. I would disagree with you with one state thing. Actually, no, that's not That's not true because I had on Palestinian activists, right? Because, like I said, I want to have everyone on I want to hear every side of the story, and this is not to derail from your story. The funny thing was, it's not funny, but, uh, they believed in a one state solution where everyone co mingled and I make sense of it makes more sense to me than a two state solution, right, I where and for me, at the end of all this, I don't even know anything about I know this much about it so small. It's very, very, very little bit about it. Ah, but for you even, you know, sharing that that one state, right, it does make sense, right? That one situation makes sense. But getting back to, like, you know, the story of who you are as a person. Um, going through that in your life, we're recognizing it for the first time. Was there other instances that had happened since then? Or is it something that you've just you know, it's a shit that happened one time, not keep my guard up?

spk_1:   19:14
Um, I can't say it happened one time, but it's happened on different occasions. It again, it's just how people word, certain things and react to certain things is that's how I interpreted. It doesn't have to necessarily be like do that. It doesn't have to be that just other sleight of hand or, you know, different comments or whatever. Maybe, um, and some people don't know that I'm Jewish, and then they will say comments on That's another thing here to me. Um, but aside from that, I just do that. There was a vulnerability that I needed to protect. You know, at the end of the day, I'm not just for myself, you know, from my future family and for my current family. And I'm saying that that's an important thing, because again, I'm an 18 year old kid. Just realization that Oh, shit. And not everybody is gonna love me in this world. So when I came to Los Angeles, that was mine. Wasn't my original intent. 10 was music. Yeah, maybe six months. I was already fighting, you know? So it was like that quick. Um, and it was just a beautiful progression to that, um, and then along the way, I just eventually wanted to do my own thing. And, uh, so I left went to go Just do Pts. And that was really what I did for quite a while. And then there's Jim that I was taking my privates to. They offered me a job. If I want to hold sometimes it they're there for their boxing fitness, right? It wasn't called boxing fitness back then. It was just like a box of work out. OK, but it was boxing. Fitness was roof it? Yes, it's, you know, people having fun, just hitting, sweating? No, real, like nobody's getting punched in the fast. Um, unless you want to know. So it was that and it was great, Man, it was a great experience because I learned something completely different. You know, this wasn't a martial arts. This was This was business. At the end of the day, yeah, boxing was involved. That was the main selling point. But it's fitness. So different energy, different dynamic with the customer, everything is just it's different. So I learned that man, it was great and then eventually left and I went to another gym. I was there for a couple of weeks, and, uh, that didn't last. Very This is this is

spk_0:   21:30
the progression of you know who you are as a person. But when you started when you were growing up in Cleveland, there were some things I don't mean to derail you, but you want to get back to kind of your story. right. Um, what was it like growing up in Cleveland? Because I heard you say something about your father. Right? And I can relate to that. Um, not on the same level is you, Because everyone has a different story. Right? Um, me losing my father at 17. Right? Growing up without a dad, right? That's not growing up without a dad without a dad, ever. Right. But, um, you said something about that. What? What happened and why at that point?

spk_1:   22:11
Yeah. So that's a great question. Um, my parents probably divorced wooden man. I don't even know. Probably wants four years old. Something that I really didn't have. Ah. Ah, Father around When there's important things that as I've come up age, I've realized there was things missed by that. So I've had to find other people to bring that to me, right? Or I had to go out and find it and write it. Um, it was unfortunate, man. It's a blessing in this guy. So, you know, because it when you're going through it as a kid, you're upset. You know, you don't understand anything, but as you get older, you start to realize, you know how people work, how this whole world works and you start toe forgive. You have to, you know, even if they're not there, you know? And it was frustrating as a kid, my father wasn't was an alcoholic for a majority of it. He's a recovered alcoholic now. Okay, Thank God for that one. Um, he's better off for that, you know, Um but that's kind of how I remembered it, you know, because even when it wasn't the alcohol involved, it was still the same person. You know, it's not showing up for getting things. Some she in there, same shit, different day.

spk_0:   23:20
It's hard. It's hard on on any boy or girl growing up on, but a boy growing up, it's it's hard, man. Having your father teach you these core things that we need toe learn right to become the men that we are. As we get older, it's it's hard. And so to be able to reach out and find mentors and and have, that is it's amazing, right? Um, but that had to be hard. And I can relate to that man, you know, not having having your dad around. Um But I did hear you say something? If if that didn't happen, I wouldn't be the man I am today. You know, I'm paraphrasing, but that's what you said right on I Once again, I can really to that because I say that my therapist told the time and everyone right is like if my dad didn't die, right? Yeah, because of the path he was going on and and the man I would have become, um it wouldn't be close to who I am today. So with him passing, um, I say that I'm I am the man today because my father passed away. And I know that sounds fucked up to some people, but I tell you looking, but it's it's exactly it's how you look at it. It's, you know, though, the way that I perceive it is the path that he was living his life and the alcoholism and the drugs and this and that and all the other shit, right? Well, in life, they say that you're like the closest five people that you surround yourself with you. So if you surround yourself with, you know, a whole bunch of upstanding, hardworking individuals, what you probably gonna be if you surround yourself are in a whole bunch of, you know, fuck off. So what, we're gonna be all right and especially the closest person in my life? My father, But going through it, you don't see that?

spk_1:   25:07
No, you don't look at it like that.

spk_0:   25:08
You don't look at it like that at all. Um, when was it? When was that realization like, OK, you know why? I'm I am the man I am today because of struggle I went through. I

spk_1:   25:21
can tell you when that happened, I, um but it was probably progression to it. Probably didn't have been told about 27 to that. Like, epiphany happened that Okay, this is my journey. I'm pulling control over everything that happens in my own emotions to, um that took some time to realize what that was. You know? You know, little mushroom trip helped answer there. Yeah, born that does. And it helps with good people, though, because sometimes you can't bring that out in yourself. So you have questions that you gotta ask. And I was lucky that I had some very knowledgeable, close friends that I can ask those questions too, and they could read Neil. Yeah. Reassure me that debts hold your

spk_0:   26:04
second time I talk about that suicide. But in your home?

spk_1:   26:11
No, no. So it's important to have that, you know, because again, what do these questions that you're asking and my crazy? But you're really not, you know, because other people have experienced it too, and they've been through it as well. So it's it's good that people can relate. You know equally, Adam, you're not alone. You know,

spk_0:   26:27
that feeling alone is some of the hardest things that people can go through, um, using suicide and GMT. LSD is tools are fantastic. Having fun with it is, you know, is fantastic, too. But as that will come in adult and really realized the importance of these on these tools. I don't like home drugs because they're not drugs.

spk_1:   26:52
I don't believe they are ill.

spk_0:   26:53
I mean, obviously, you should wait to your, um you know, I didn't wait, but, um, you should wait to 25 because the front of cortex doesn't really develop. You know, Rogan talks about this all the fucking time, but it z true. Do the research. Look it up as a kid. When I took mushrooms and and who was nothing. I never had a good time tonight either. As I became an adult and used as a tool, it changed my entire life. We're talking about the empty earlier on the palm before we got on the podcast and, um, d m t I mean, LSD suicide in A and E m t f all had vital roles in my life. And I've shared this on the podcast GMT. Saved my life. Sure. And the reason being is, um, two years ago, I was flying out to my mother's and started throwing up and just got super sick on the airplane. Right. Um, long story short that led to me being in the hospital for three weeks. I was an icy You. I went frickin, um, baby that at one point, like everything stopped my lungs club like everything right? And master, everything stopped. And my wife had to get brought into that, like, you know, special room. And she had, like, sign and all that shit, right? Because they didn't know if I was going to live or die, right? 33 weeks, a week and 1/2 week. And I see you It was just brutal, man. I thought I was going to die. Came to terms with it. Um, and all of this shit happened, right? And so I get This was 23 years ago. Uh, yeah, Just recent. Okay. Just recent. And when I got out for the longest time, it was very hard to realize why I was still alive. Okay? And then a lot of oppression. And this that and the other stuff started coming a flow. And so about two years ago, I was very suicidal. And at one moment, probably six months, eight months after I got out of the hospital, right? I've just read a Britney Spears moment. I shaved my fuckin head off my head off. I shave my hair off my eyebrows, my beard, everything I was. Thank God. Ah, I was in New Orleans teaching a class, and I did it that night, and I just had a mental breakdown. Right, Um, and and going through all of this, right. Um, I didn't know where to turn right. I didn't know what the fuck to do. And I remember that LSD and psilocybin had got me through pivotal moments in my life because I was never prepared to take d m t. I was always nervous about it, right, Because you have it's it's not that you just you don't fuck around with it, right? It would be serious about it. And I hit up my friend who had it right when he said, Whenever you're ready, I have it right. And so we went. I hit him up, I went to a studio, which was like a happy place for me. A lot of recording, recording, music, bands and all that shit that for years from was younger toe, you know, just by 57 years ago, right? So this is like my happy spot, and it was just him and I and I want a gun. He had, like, here's a bed in there, right, And it first hit. Second hit, third hit. By the time I took the third or fourth hit, I the last off into this other world, right? And I had become the most vulnerable I have ever felt. I felt like I was completely naked, right, But I knew I had clothes on. I was more scared than I ever been, but I knew there was nothing I could do about it. And when I came to the point when I was just laying there floating and this just we have, we heard world all of a sudden when I came to terms with it, I see these two eyes looking at me from the top and I don't know, I don't know who it was. I don't know what it was, but I thought it was my dad on. I had a conversation with him and some of the biggest things that I take away, you know, as a dad, I'm done. I'm done. It's don't fucking live anymore. I do not want to live anymore. And, um, he tells me, goes Brock, It's not your time. It's not your time. You have a lot more life to live as a dad that he goes Brock. It's not your time. You have a lot more life to live and it went through it and it came out of it. And as soon as I started coming to reality cause it's it's it's relatively quick came to reality. The depression being society thief, feelings and thoughts to kill myself and be suicidal, stripped it all away. Wow. Now that is my experience. That is not unique, though. A lot of did not A lot of people have that. That's the crazy part. That is the crazy part. And it's very, very strange that in a society with all the information that we have, we don't look at these things. Mora's tools and we're starting to rate with, you know, suicide and being decriminalised in a few cities across the nation. Um, but these things, if used as tools, can help. Um And I'm just speaking from my own experience now, when most people do drugs, right? And they get fucked up in the party, even if they were party out there, are partying their ass off drinking all fucking night and then threw up everywhere, right? The next morning, they'd want to do it all again, right? Yes. It has been a year and 1/2 since I've done it, because I'm too fucking scared to do it while and I'm not scared of it. I'm not scared, but it's not. I'm just know like it's like you need to. I don't need to. Exactly. It's like taking a hero dose of mushrooms right Yes. Um, you don't wake up the next day going. Oh, fuck, yeah. I'm gonna do that again. You're again. Let's just wait a little while. You

spk_1:   33:16
got a decompress. Of course. Has gotta let your body taking. What the hell just happened to it? Yeah, you know, a good friend of mine that you even she says, like some people for me, I can recall what happens during after right away. I'm processing as it is happening. This is who I am. But, you know, as she explained it to me, it takes a week to fully realised, realised everything that just happened because some people takes a little bit of liberal longer just to understand everything that just happened. Because again, you're here. But you're not here, so it's It's interesting.

spk_0:   33:57
It is. It is. It's so interesting meeting like when I'm doing my team. Like when I mount the DMG especially. I'm not talking about the visuals and all that and more visuals that I've ever seen my entire life. Right. But it's not about that. It's not about that. And even with mushrooms, right with with soul asylum with LSD, it's like the you become so introspective. It allows you to go with N yes, and a person that lives within a lot being me to go more within would be fucking nuts for a lot of people.

spk_1:   34:29
Go to that. They are. It's the voice inside of your head.

spk_0:   34:32
Exactly. It's those two people we were talking about. I was talking about before the podcasts. And I have this philosophy that everyone is like at least two people, the person that people perceive on the outside and the person on the inside.

spk_1:   34:45
So that's great that you talk about that. So, uh, I know that's the sole grow. If you want to put it in a word, that's the soul. It's the shell that speaks and it's the person inside of you. Yeah, you can have two different conversations going at the same time. Yes. How is that possible? It's not again. Contract. So again, we could play a little game right here. OK, I do this with a couple of friends. All right, let's do It's a fun game. All right? Okay. So let's take the word Brock. Okay. Say it out Loud, rock. Beautiful. Now don't say it to me. Say it to yourself? Yeah. Cool. Yeah. Was the voice that just spoke completely different. Okay, so let's go deeper. How did you hear yourself speak? Okay, So, like our our understanding between sounds, physical vibration and I hit this and we both hear it, right, But there's no physical vibration, but you're still hearing that fail

spk_0:   35:47
my in my in my in my god and in my heart.

spk_1:   35:50
And if you close your eyes, you can see your name, right? You can place in different places. So you're being with see here, right? Yeah. All these things. All these different senses. Yeah. So it's a whole different thing that we weren't taught. Yeah, right about who we are when we grew up as a kid. So, like, this obviously has no lid. But if we had a cup right container, we can both see that it's a three dimensional world. Front. Back, left, right, up, down. That's when we're told. The minute we come out, the one pass three and mention right. But we both can shake that water bottle and we can hear there's something going on inside of it, right? Yes. Why are we talking about what's going on inside of it. Yeah. So that's the voice, right? So when you then people talk. But I can turn this voice off in my head. But it ended up, you know, and that's a real thing. Of course I've been there. Trust me. Like I that my childhood. Yeah, man, you know. So once you understand what that voices, then you can start speaking within pension, right? You're no longer speaking through a shell and conversing to these two different layers. That's the voice shell they meet. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yes. We give Empower your words. Yeah, And words mean something.

spk_0:   37:03
It doesn't mean a lot of energy. Yeah, right. That's what this is all built off of. Very. It's just it's this unseen thing that is around us that connects us all. All right. It's like every person that's been on this podcast when I talk about those two people, you know, although maybe the person on the outside were complete, complete, different, that person on the inside is more similar than I've ever realized.

spk_1:   37:25
Oh, you before by far, people just don't ask enough questions

spk_0:   37:28
exactly. We think that we are so different, but we are not. It's It's just hard to explain because what you just said right now and that that, you know, going through that the person that I send the answer, the person on the inside fucking completely different, completely fucking different. I said Brock, you know, loud and strong. And on the inside, it was definitely not. It was the opposite, right? It's quieter. It's quieter, right? It's so unique. Wow, that I've never done that before,

spk_1:   38:02
so there's more to it, right? So that's just the site, right? Sight hearing, taste, memory, All that stuff you can go through time, right? You can see the present, the past, the future, all those different things. So how are we being able to do that right again? This is not science. I'm not a scientist. Just me being fucking weird and coming up with some your stuff, right? In a sense, it's a little vest a little bit. So the next thing is, if you close your mouth right, your closure knows was the first thing that's gonna happen to you, right? Close it. You hold it. We're gonna lose first.

spk_0:   38:44
My breath close. Well, yeah. You lose your breath. Yeah. You're gonna lose consciousness. Oh, Yea, yeah. Your

spk_1:   38:51
brain still works your hearts to work in your blood. Still pumping Good to go. Yeah, but you're losing consciousness, right? So consciousness makes you aware that I'm aware of this world. I'm awake. I'm here. Right? But the body still functions without the consciousness. Yeah. You know, we know that from people being, you know, in the hospital, of course. Um so close amount to closure your nose, you lose consciousness. So what's air? I don't know. I don't know. But it's giving you consciousness and the air comes. I get it together there is created through the plants. Let's grant to the earth the earth sustaining us that give us consciousness. There's no other way that we could be conscious without the bird. Yeah, so it's all together and this it just all works together. And there's no denying,

spk_0:   39:49
you know, As I've gotten older and older, I've started to realize that more and more and more that we as thing that we called world the Earth, you know, is so interconnected on so many levels, right? You know, from the air that we breed to the trees to when we die toe, you know, getting, you know, brought back around the fertilizer. All of that shit. Right? What is that, bro? Who knows What is that right? It's a trick. It is the fucking minutes. That's why when someone presented the simulation theory to me for the first time, which is, like, completely different, right? But it's like, E. I don't know. It's like that. That thought of someone or something, creating this digital realm right? Or this is obviously not digital. Um, it's the same as someone saying more. You know, God created all of this. That's the same thing. It's literally the same thing. Which is this person believes this. It's called simulation theory. Will. This person believes it's called God right isn't at the end of all of it. There's someone that created all of that creators, a keyword, exactly creator on, even with such different views getting back Teoh. You know the Judaism, right? The Jews and the Christians and Catholics, right? They, uh, we've all thought for so long will his Judaism still of course it. This, of course, is of course it is. It's always of course it's right. Absolutely. That's brutal. Stemmed from on. Why is it that if we know that this is all interconnected, um, this person could believe simulation through this person can believe, you know God, Um, there's so much fighting in between all of it. Yeah, it just fucking blows my mind. It's like, OK, you guys are both saying pretty much the same fucking thing. Yes. Hate, but four years for centuries, for generations we have fought over this. Well, that was my way. That was my way. It's no gives a shit if you got to start David tattooed on your fucking arm. Yeah. Why can't I be me? Why do I have to feel the way that I have felt their different parts of my life? Parts of my life? It blows my mind. I don't know, e I

spk_1:   42:18
think it's power. Corrupts Absolutely. What? You mean better. Okay, so we have a tribe will take a small tribe. Right? That tribe grows over years, centuries. It's easy to control the tribe from within. When you build a company Same way you're trying to keep the culture, it's difficult to do when you start to grow where you start to lose culture. You starting to become more corporate. Yeah, So on the outside, you cannot control what goes on there. You can't control those conversations. No, que cannot, But just a swell. As you built that tribe from within out, they can take your tribe from out and destroy it from within. Of course. Right. And they could Baltimore, that tribe baboon ways. So it just becomes that right? Your sword is bigger than mine, Of course. Right. Like your hair's more longer than mine. Same thing. Yeah. So I'm jealous. So I asked my friend the other day When was the first lie, right? Yeah, because tribes and cultures are based upon honesty. Back then, they should have been right. We had assumed that they would be just like our culture. You know, America, the way that it's all set up, I walk down the street. It's like we all have, Ah, an agreement that we're not gonna hurt each other right now, So I'm going to do my thing. I'm going to set 11. You're good.

spk_0:   43:35
Yeah. It took a long, not a long time, but it took some time. It took some time. Yeah,

spk_1:   43:40
but that's everything. And it's a progression. That's why people migrate to different areas to keep experimenting with the different, you know?

spk_0:   43:47
So it did take some. I was just, uh, reading a book about the command cheese, right? And if we just go back to the 18 seventies 18 sixties, which is like, 100 150 years ago, right? Number, Long time. Not very long ago at all. Um, the life, the hose people lived on both sides, the Americans. And, you know, the the command cheese and the natives, uh, was different than what we have, what we're going through now and how brutal it was and how brutal it has been. Still, I mean, still, but it is becoming less and less and less year on. We have gone from, you know, it's centuries. I mean, literally thousands of years of constant battle everywhere, everywhere, right all across the fucking glow.

spk_1:   44:40
Think we're always the world is always at conflict with each other,

spk_0:   44:45
of course. Yeah, but now it's become little hot pockets. Yes, right to where it was so, so different. Like walking down the street was not fucking you. Now I can walk down the street and not think twice, right? Um and not all cities and neighborhoods air like that, right? Get that right. But but out where I live, I can walk down the street. If it was 107 101 150 years ago. No fucking way is not the case. That's not the case, right? So with evolution, with time does there come a point where? OK, we've come so far. We're talking about PCP political correctness before, uh, does there come a time when all of this is happening and slowly, slowly, slowly to where there is no war and there is no hatred

spk_1:   45:34
that comes back to the first like question. Right? Because this conflict somewhere jealousy somewhere, you know, because even within, you know, you can pick any country a war, right? It's probably not a war of race. It's a war of status or some type of war of you're different tribe within our own Dr Right. So there's hate already within that moves the same culture, same people. Absolutely. There's hey within that right? And that's for everyone, you know. So nobody's special. So even if it's a one race whatever, guess what? Conflicts still exist for sure. Power still exists, so it pull utopian. I don't think that is a possibility. It's a beautiful thing to talk about, and everybody wishes that that's a possibility one day. But in order to get to that, you would literally be limiting people's ability to think and process, because it goes back to the voice the voice is having. One thing to say in the external body is saying something completely different. So it's like you're fighting the voice and you're appeasing the people around you, so nobody feels hurt. But

spk_0:   46:45
we do live in a digital world, right? So things are changing, right? So I

spk_1:   46:49
more hate on the digital platform. That is a real little

spk_0:   46:52
absolutely. And I feel at least time. This is what I feel or what I think is like as we progress a society, right? Wars won't be fought with humans that we fought with robots, right? Droid based, you know, technology. Absolutely. So does there come a time where, uh, these wars were not fought between, um, you know, human beings, but robots and things like that. So then where the wars were not fought, you know, and this really world. But in a digital world at this hour, to add, though. Sure. Yeah, I won't agree. No, I mean, it's getting bigger and bigger, but where there's no wars between means,

spk_1:   47:36
it will get to that at some point, Like fully automated robots fighting each other. I could definitely see that there's always gonna be a human behind that controller for sure. Right? And then you know that that's obvious.

spk_0:   47:48
Well, maybe not event

spk_1:   47:49
or not. You know, you never know. So even if there is a controller, right will say that there is, um, human still got to do that. They're still going to be affected by because they're knowingly knowing what they're doing. Israel, I got a real video screen right there. So you still having that effect of the PTSD? So, man, I don't know. I don't think it ever get completely automated, but it get them close. You don't

spk_0:   48:14
think there's gonna come a time where it's fully automated? Fully autonomous robots fighting against fully autonomous robots Don't fight us. Oh, that's a fucking fat,

spk_1:   48:24
is what I mean, like, it will get to a point where they just don't do it on their own. But

spk_0:   48:29
I do think that if if man is smart enough and women is smart enough. Good actor. What? Create a backdoor? No. We start to become fully cyborg, right? Because oh, I believe is evolution, right? I don't believe evolution is taking us to give us another fucking horn or another toe or any of that shit

spk_1:   48:47
while we're doing that to ourselves already. So even though it's not evolution were still manipulating our bodies right now. Sure. And we're gearing up for the

spk_0:   48:54
future. Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, we see these, you know, iPhones, ipads, all the shamans, every everyone's hands. Right. And we have become smarter as a society now because at any given moment, um, any question if the idea means Google ads, you can ask Siri, you can ask Google for it right, which if the person is smart enough, they will use it. That doesn't make everyone smart enough, But we, as a society are smarter now that with that were with that, um, Now there does come a point where that does come together because I'm even pacemakers and, um, all the all the other second things that you would know more about than me just dealing with, you know, lots of people training them. Um, does that then in your mind? Think, OK, site, because A I I do believe we'll turn on human beings. Yeah, right on the only. At some point, of course. So do we integrate with the I do integrate with that. Have you thought about that?

spk_1:   49:54
Of course, with my industry. Yeah. So I think that a lot across a lot of industries, there's very few jobs that are going to sustain the test of time. Yeah, that's a That's like a trade. Yeah, absolutely. Cutting hair. Yeah, it's a trade like that's something that, even with the technology now, can't replace the human right. There's just something that the verb, it's that you have the technique, it you're seeing something that is different from the person before that that will never go away. It will take a very long time if it's on a digital platform. I think of video camera is still gonna be president with instructor viewing. What's going on? I think that it with the fitness will be very difficult for it to get to a level where there's not any kind of physical person involved. Um, unless again, again, cyborg, that can see your posture and be like

spk_0:   50:45
to to get real intricate. Well, we don't. It will happen eventually. Yeah, Venture. But then it's like at that point that eventually 1000 years down the road as man that merged with the machine, right? So then we are the machine. So then, you know, things were just so different at that point, right on. And we can continue to go down that rabbit hole, but I do want to dial it back. Right. Um, your story is very unique in the sense that you didn't grow up, you know, wanting to do the bodyguard stuff. Want to do in the, you know, workout bodybuilding. You know, crop McGraw. All of those things as a kid, were you ever picked on? Teased? Um, and then there was this evolution that, you know, because of, you know, the music and all of the story that you should before.

spk_1:   51:39
No, I wasn't really picked on, okay? Picked on my but my brother.

spk_0:   51:43
Okay, I It's the second time in talking about

spk_1:   51:46
Yeah, so, I mean, I was obviously around them a lot, but, you know, two years old. Yeah. So I was going out with them would be picked on by them. That's their job. Yeah. We hate each other enormous, much as we can as hard as we could. You know, she'll, of course, includes, of course, fun stuff. Yeah, but I was mainly alone in my whole life, my whole childhood, even till today, You know, I could do an extroverted job, but I'm introverted at home, straight up, you know, even in my regular life, very introverted person. And not in, like, a negative sense where you know, a shy or whatever like No, no, that's not the case at all. Um, I can turn it on. I can turn it off just as easily. But I to take time for myself. I don't feel like I gotta, like, drown it out with other people to keep me preoccupied or whatever. Um, so was mainly about myself growing up. So I just learned my independence in that sense, where I was just constantly thinking questioning everything around me and, um, it was again nowadays, 80 HD learning disabilities, all that stuff, and it took it. Took a toll like ticket. Told, took a time from mother to fully understand what was going on with me. Put me through testing and all this stuff from bro. I'm telling you, like years of this stuck trying to figure out what was going on with me, why wasn't passing tests? Why wasn't learning anything in a school setting? Not like a totally different thing, because she can tell that I'm very highly functional. Quick. I'm smart, you know? Like, but there's something that's not clicking. Why is he not passing the test? Why does it take him a week to do it? Yeah, he doesn't do his homework, and it has always causing trouble in class. You know what was going on with this kid? Are you talking about me? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I got it. Exactly. Exactly. Um, So it became that whole situation. And then, uh, honestly, I didn't even pass. Ah, math test until my senior year. You know what I mean? Not because I couldn't do it. Nothing. This market. Yeah, I knew it was going on, but just the way that it was structured in a way was done. Did it make sense to me? But if we broke it down, we talked about it. We broke you know your boy got it. Um, so it was that so I grew up learning that about myself. Okay, how do I learn? Right? Physical hands on. Got to talk about it. And, uh, you know, it took me a little while to get that. But, you know, I was probably about 18 years old when I figured that out. Eventually clicks. Yeah.

spk_0:   54:11
Growing up, going through, having to go through all of those tests. And, um, did you understand what was going on at that point? Because I personally just to say no. No. Yeah. I was about to say the same thing. They, um you don't realize until you're older, right? Yeah. Do you think that it waas something that I helped you out of the hall? Like going through all those tests in that experience? Uh,

spk_1:   54:47
initially, I don't think so. Okay, it's confusing, right? You're getting taken out of school. Mom's driving into this all the facility as ladies asking questions. Put you in a room with that bones in arms and, like, really intricate stuff. Test reading off numbers, repeating them, organizing different. You know, I'm saying, like, auditory visual toe across the board. Absolutely. many years of this, um, didn't know what was going on, you know? No, no.

spk_0:   55:13
Yeah, it's Ah, it's weird to reflect back on those moments, right? Cause I went through the same shit or a two different lives saying, but a lot of similarities. I'm starting to hear from your story. Um, I don't know if I look back at that time and go, OK, that helped me out. All right? But I do know that

spk_1:   55:40
I don't think it was for you, though. Exactly as for the mother

spk_0:   55:43
Erica, she's trying to figure it out. How, you know, that's gonna be hard as a mom, right?

spk_1:   55:50
I think it's very difficult. Yes, confused. My kids normal, but she's not functioning in school. What's wrong with him? Why do we do

spk_0:   55:58
that? As a society, we got different, read different people like everyone learns differently. Why has it got to be the straight narrow bullshit?

spk_1:   56:04
That's a great question, man. I wish I knew the answer for that. Um, there's obviously a standard way of learning and a in America. But luckily, when my mother started figuring this out, she realized OK, He's obviously not learning the same way So you put me in different schools that catered to kids That didn't do so well in a 30 person class talking limited. Six people at some point went to boarding school, bro. Always share that with my whole high school career. Oh, yeah. I actually wanted to go there. You did? I did.

spk_0:   56:36
As a kid, I could never have imagined going to boarding school. And I thought you were gonna go down the past. You know, I was sent there because I didn't want to, you know, not go there or whatever. Ah, but then you said that you wanted to go.

spk_1:   56:49
Yeah, I definitely wanted to go. Why? That's a great question, man. I mean, I was going. I was already at another school, obviously, you know, for my ninth grade year, that wasn't going so well. All my friends had left and went to their other schools, you know, for the high school park. And then my brother went to this place boarding school as well. And, um, I just saw that, you know, he was doing his thing, He was growing up being independent. You know, cool friends look cool. And I just knew that I wanted to be independent. I wanted that I wanted to not live underneath my mother's house anymore. Not that I have anything yet, so I love a mother and shout out to my Maddux here. But, you know, I just wanted to I wanted to grow up. He was ready to grow up even though I really wasn't ready to grow up. Now that look, I have, you know, you think that you know every day. Of course you dio for so stupid more that I have such a great guy. Eso I just told her I was you know, Look, I just want to go, you know, I want to go. And she's like, all right, Maybe two weeks later, I was gone. No fucking way. What was it like that first day away from home at such a young age? It was fine, because the way that my house is already situated I lived in the basement and part of it. So my mother and my brother all lived upstairs and I had my own room. And that's how I wanted it. I just wanted to be separate from everybody for whatever reason, you know, is one of my space, bro. You know, I just want to do my thing. I didn't want toe. I didn't want my mom walk it into the living room. And, you know, I just want to be by myself. I got it. And watch television show just learning mom myself again. Sense of independence, for sure. Sure. Uh, so I just, you know, I feel cool with it being by myself. But it technically wasn't because I had a roommate and my transition to the school was actually pretty seamless, man, because I do. Everybody pretty watch what? My brother went there.

spk_0:   58:51
I do. So that actually makes a lot of sense. That makes a lot of sense. Your bro went there. You

spk_1:   58:56
looked up to him. Yeah, I did. Yeah, I did without him. Probably realizing it.

spk_0:   59:01
I don't Yeah, yeah. At that age, you don't realize anything. So

spk_1:   59:06
he presents. Yeah, it was great. Now, uh, slow into the school. So my roommate, actually having to be a friend of this that I knew very well. Yeah, so it was like a studio. Sounds like living

spk_0:   59:20
with your

spk_1:   59:20
boy essentially at a boarding school. At rules that we still broke. Of course. Of course. Good times. Great times. Damn interesting times Have stories

spk_0:   59:33
go going there being around a whole bunch of fucking boys in 14 15 16 78 years old and rough kids to Okay, okay. Cells weren't like they're straight narrow. Obviously. You're fucking boarding Score. Yeah, their reasons. Yeah, that definitely there for a reason. Well, maybe you right now, I mean, particularly in while

spk_1:   59:52
I was there for a reason, because I was already in trouble. Okay? Originally with the the police. And

spk_0:   59:59
it was just your young dude getting stupid shit. Yeah, that that if I do When I was in ninth grade, I got charged with 10 felonies, got dropped on the three felonies, one felony, and they got expunge off my record. I know. Just fucking stupid drugs. That sounds oddly familiar. Yeah, so I but I

spk_1:   1:0:19
was a kid, right? I was doing stupid shit. She gives 2nd 3rd 4 chances.

spk_0:   1:0:24
Easy. Absolutely. I mean, we should give chances of society anyways, um, but for sure, as kids, you're just you don't think the way that you do is an adult. Nowhere to rest yourself. No, you don't. Yeah, you're not a person. You just like this little blob in the hole scheme of things. Right? But for going there, what kind of shit? What you guys do, Because it must have been fucking nuts.

spk_1:   1:0:53
Well, I mean, we would try and get away with much as we could. Um, obviously, the little things were staying up past our bad time, right? Sneaking out. That's their security. Right? And the security moves around, there's multiple of it. So if you're sneaking out, you got to know what you go, which is what you're gonna do and where you're going, because you gotta move around these people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, some kids would go out, they would get in other people's rooms, start drinking, they go on smoke, we're going calm. Nature walks.

spk_0:   1:1:23
Okay, so but were you allowed to go on these nature walks?

spk_1:   1:1:27
We were allowed to go on these nature walks. Okay, Um, we would just ask teacher like hell, we just, like, go for a walk in the woods. But it did it over here cause the property was huge. Yeah, totally go for that. So crazy. And they hope that Yeah, actually, that was a great summer school. Uh,

spk_0:   1:1:45
I although you guys were all going to get a little rough fuckers, Um, it still should probably be a great time in your life.

spk_1:   1:1:56
It was? Yeah. Yeah. We all had a great time. We're by ourselves, basically, you know, in our teachers were so not a friend. Okay, we're just mawr of, um make sure you're not gonna kill them, like, get killed. You know, the kids killing each other, You know, they're just supervising the whole situation. Um, because you're going to be friends with these things. Teachers. You look up to them because you're with him all the time and they treat you like an adult. It's not like how it is in a public school. Yeah, there's a different you're living with these people. Are you eating breakfast, lunch, dinner? Everything with these people. They got kids. Guess what? You're growing up with the kids. Wait. The kids of the of the teachers No fucking way. The golden families. They lived there too. Yeah, they wouldn't

spk_0:   1:2:37
all the property and they go to school there. And the teach, they live. Whoa, Hamas girl. Damn. So it must have been I mean, did it sometimes feel like a big family?

spk_1:   1:2:49
Yes, it felt like that because there wasn't a point where you ever didn't feel like somebody was necessary out to get you. Uh, more was like, if you get caught, we're gonna catch you. But we're gonna support you and get you to where you need to be and keep checking in on you and do everything that they need to do to get that. And some kids are responsive to that some art. But yeah, that was That was pretty much a set up. And I knew that, You know

spk_0:   1:3:15
that that is the way it should be done, right? I mean, you would hope so. Take away the like living there. Right? Um, but then as teachers sharing those things and going through those experiences and looking it from that side, not being so one sided with things at least us away I'm taking from it, you know, going to that situation and that must have been a big time of growth for

spk_1:   1:3:40
you. Oh, for sure, because I'm looking up to these people again. I was growing up without a father percent, so I'm looking upto the history instructor. You know, the gym instructor, the health instructor. And I was living with these people. So get your seeing them be a father. Yeah, you know,

spk_0:   1:3:58
be there. Humanizes that married. Yeah, for sure. And makes them treat you in a different way as well, right? Because they also have to live with you, right? So it's it's this weird dynamic. I've actually never heard of that, but I've never researched a lot of the boarding school. Sure, Um I don't know if a lot of boarding schools are like that. I don't think you know. I don't know. Leland. Yeah. Mom was very small. Yeah, Yeah.

spk_1:   1:4:24
My graduating class probably had 30 people in it. Uh, about 100

spk_0:   1:4:28
plus happy. I was so good for you. Oh, yeah, for you, you know, and for me would have been the same way. And that's why some of these smaller schools that kids like myself yourself would get sent to they look is like the bad schools. Right? Well, that whole dynamic needs to change because although our brains are wired differently than everything, love their person like fuck that, um, as a kid, we adapt on them better when there is a smaller group. Camaraderie. Ah, a little bit of this, You know, cat and mouse. I'm better. You're better, right? But on a smaller scale, it allows individuals toe foster these. We'll use that thing to grow.

spk_1:   1:5:16
We all share something in common. Yeah, at the end of the day, Yeah, right. And that was the one thing that I noticed the most. And that's why everybody pretty much got along with each other. I mean, obviously, there's still, like, a little bit of bullying and picking on kids just because that's what they do with four kids are just decks. Yeah, but humans do that. Do that

spk_0:   1:5:32
to every kid's air, just deck

spk_1:   1:5:34
stuff. So you would have this multi dimensional group of kids all over the world of my roommate was Saudi Arabia, right? So think about this. His mother called him, asked him when she found out that she was living with the Jew like Is he nice to, you know, right. And obviously, like, I didn't know anything about right now, either did he? But that was like something that, you know, the parents were very aware of. And it was interesting t hear him here is side of story. And what is it like growing up in Saudi Arabia? This incredible bro? You know, I'm saying just to hear his perspective and hear what it's like in the city, lay out. It's like America. City planning is identical. So it is great to grow up with that People from South Korea all over the world row. So, yeah,

spk_0:   1:6:25
it makes you look at life differently just because everybody has different experience there. That's a different world, man. It's a different place for each individual and then coming together. I love hearing that. I've never, ever heard that before, so it's really cool. You hear that story? Once you went through that, and then what was the point? Your life, you're like, right? Fuck it. I'm going to move to California for music

spk_1:   1:6:50
again. That would that happen when I went to the first college? So after that whole experience, I got kicked out. It happens.

spk_0:   1:6:57
It's an ongoing things, and I'm going to meet you. I was just side. No. I was kicked out of every single junior high school in Santa Clarita where I live. Okay, so I went to every single one of them and that that that wasn't the last time. But I've been kicked out of a lot of when I was younger, right on. And obviously the same should happen to you. Whatever. Dude. Were 80 de fucking whatever it like, Who gives a shit?

spk_1:   1:7:23
This is why they kicked me out Because of my disciplinary meeting. I didn't say that I wanted to be a Muskegon for life.

spk_0:   1:7:29
Oh, there we go. Well, that's a lot.

spk_1:   1:7:31
I just that I was like, I love going here. It's a great school. Like, I just want to go to school that it was like they really wanted toe.

spk_0:   1:7:38
No, it's to put you in line

spk_1:   1:7:39
side religions of the high school college

spk_0:   1:7:42
waken Get it out or we're gonna make it make you say it 10 times the ends of people really understand. I'm just looking right. No, but that doesn't matter. Um, all of that. Then got to a point for you, right? You moved when you came to California.

spk_1:   1:8:04
What was lost? Let's get Let's get that right. That's lost before. So after I left that first school, I'm back home. What am I gonna do for the rest of my life. Now, I've been told that that's that's the thing. You know, I'm saying, like, what's you get another second chance of college. I just gotta get down on one. But they talk to each other, so I'm looking like Do I have to go the military only shit, right? Yeah, I'm working a Peco.

spk_0:   1:8:27
Damn. Assume saying okay. But you were 18. 19 year 18 Peco. Whatever. It's pets. Go. You're not

spk_1:   1:8:33
a little job. The land was a little place, kept me entertained.

spk_0:   1:8:37
Oh, yeah, I mean loaded, but yeah, for sure.

spk_1:   1:8:40
British pressure. So I would sit outside, sunbathe, listen to music and just meditate on what it is I'm trying to do with my life. And this idea of working in music came across my mind back in my junior year as well. But when I researched, it wasn't very informational because there's nothing about it. Sound engineering, live sound postproduction. There was nothing really that I could have read to tell me what the job Waas and if anything, was all just like you send and share for 12 hours. Did it? Does what you do know. Like all right. That sucks. Because there was no there was no college route for that. What's the job title? There's no college course for that. So I was lucky at that time, because when I looked it up one school that wasn't like, Ah, Berkeley school for music. You know, I'm saying just like some type of hair, our fucking extra. You know, um, it was a trade school. They had an audio engineering program. They just started it. You have to be in Los Angeles there. We got full sale was going on as well, of course. But I want I didn't want to certificate. I don't want to certification at that time, I wanted an actual degree, you know, because again, that's what we're told. That's what we need. And again, it's It's better to have that. I don't know how long the course

spk_0:   1:10:02
just wanted to come to l. A. To four. Yeah. Come on. Course eso You make that decision, right? You fuck out here. I remember the first take. If you think back to remember the first day you got to California how you felt

spk_1:   1:10:18
there was a different man. The layout of the city when I first flew in the one thing that I noticed the most with different colors of the houses. Okay, It's not very noticeable now as I'm in it. But flying that I was like, Where the hell was pink houses? There's Yellow

spk_0:   1:10:33
House. Okay. I just don't see that very often in Cleveland. Of course. A right there. Just, you know, it's his. Every house is the same, yet worlds, Brick houses. Yeah, a

spk_1:   1:10:44
lot of brick. And there's no break out here. So there was different to see that, Which is pretty cool.

spk_0:   1:10:51
I don't mean every house is the same. I met every house. Will they look the same? They they look the same, right? And it's because of the break. It was just different weather. Different shit. Right? Um, so flying in you notice all the colors it was different on, but it then shaped who you were today because, right, I mean, not not not shaped who you were. Obviously, your childhood and everything they've gone to shape who you were, but it shaped who you are as an adult. Because it was that next chapter in your life. Yeah. I good, bad or indifferent. One has come after that. Right? And you have had this dynamic up and down in your life, right home. And that's that's amazing, because sometimes we go through things when we look at as just like every single day but scanning out right from a bird's eye view. Although it's like that up and down crazy share. I was just like, just because to be able to come out to California, right? Um, to make that decision to make that goal As an 18 year old kid, I know a lot of people do it, but it's still doesn't mean everyone does it. Yeah, and then leave the nest so far away furthest I've ever been exactly. It starts to shape who you are is an adult. Um, You had that decision to do music, right? Well, music replaying what music you're making.

spk_1:   1:12:20
I was It was audio engineering, so I'm recording band. I was doing live sound on stage post production for, like, television shows, you know, putting in the screeching of the tires. Stuff like that,

spk_0:   1:12:30
Of course. Yeah, on. But then within six months, it changes. Yes. All right. Yes. Every everything starts to change. What do you think it was? If you could sum it up and just a few words was that I'm gonna change that. That's what you came out. That's a short period of time. I mean, I know you sure the story in the beginning of, like, everything that had happened. But why? Why? Why? Why?

spk_1:   1:13:06
That's a great question, man. I'm not sure why. Okay, um, I want to be a part of something right with the music. Definitely want to be a part of something. When I listened to a great song, I'm just imagining what that was like being in the studio when that was being created. Because at the end of the day, even though it's words and you hear it over, you know, Speaker, it's still art at the end of the day and they're coming up with that out of nothing thin. They're putting this piece together that fits together. You hope it works. You don't know some of the painting is the same situation, except we can visually see the end result in the process. So I wanted to be a part of that. I thought it would be really cool, and, uh and that's what I envisioned every single day. And when I got to that point where I was actually doing that, I realized that I wasn't getting to do what I envisioned. It might have gotten that at some point, who knows? But I did realize I didn't like seeing the studio for 12 hours, right? Not read this. You know, I didn't like it, Dan, like somebody telling me what to do and how to do my job and how to record the music like, No, there is a process of how I do this, and there's a reason why I do it the way I do it and because that's how I was taught and I saw that being utilized and I was like, That makes sense. That's an artist because spoiler, most of the music that we listen to nowadays is highly edited. So one of the tricks of the trade that I was taught was you could have a singer sing the same song 10 times 20 times doesn't matter, and they'll go through that entire all of them. All 20 of those songs and the highlight three seconds. Five seconds of it. Same five seconds, and each of the part, and they'll listen to it, Which is the best part. Don't edit that out. Place it on a blank track to go to the next couple of seconds. What sounds good? Crazy, right? Just peace. Drinking time. Really? That's an order form in itself. Nor is the audio engineer doing that. Beautiful. Yeah,

spk_0:   1:15:04
but you weren't. You weren't happy. It's not what you thought. It waas know right then to switch in tow. You know, um, uh, the world that you are in now, which is so dynamic cause you've done bits and pieces of a lot of it, right? Ah, that's a huge shift, right? Getting music toe, you know, crop McGann, music. You know, um, teaching people how to protect and take care of themselves and work out and and all of those things that, and especially wasn't anything that you did a lot before. Right when you started to make that transition. At that point on, after your year or to end, when did you really start to find your groove?

spk_1:   1:15:55
Maybe 2 to 3 months teaching with the crowd. McGann. Okay. I realized that that was what I was supposed to be doing. education you had teaching people empowering them. Yeah. You know, um, I really enjoyed that, man. That was a really important thing to me. Even with the fitness, a fitness in his box involved. Still intention behind it. I understand that we're having fun. We're hitting these bag. But guess what? What we're doing right here actually could help you in some capacity, even though it's not constructive. And a really systematic, like this is a fight right? Is well prepared for At least you're getting people familiar uncomfortable moving in that manner. Yeah, right. That's the biggest fear that a lot of people have. What would I even do with my arms? Yes, How I do that. Yeah. And another thing is again when you're teaching with people that have no experience. Okay, let's break this down. Never have punched anything in their entire life. Imagine that's so

spk_0:   1:17:01
crazy to me. You're a heavy broke. That's crazy. Right on. You have to. It's not laugh because there are a lot of people out there like that. Have you ever been in a fight? Or if you don't have to be a fun lunch without a lightheaded bag, anything right um, with intent with intent. Right?

spk_1:   1:17:18
Eso it's getting that out of somebody. That's awesome, bro. That's incredible to see that because you can see the person that comes in the door. And then the person that leaves two different people

spk_0:   1:17:30
to day from people.

spk_1:   1:17:31
One is intimidated, one is empowered. And that happens like that. Yeah, right. They don't know that's happening, right? Don't aware. But they could feel something just happened to them. They just know it. Um, but how do you get that out of them? That's a tough thing to dio getting it out of them. Like I need you to hit that bag as hard as you can squeeze your fist. Could be all right. But is the emotion that they're holding back prevents them from getting to that point? So I didn't things that I'm discovering along my journey, you know, Why am I even doing this? You know, absolutely. People do squats and sit ups and push ups, but there's more to it. It's so much more to it. And especially the way

spk_0:   1:18:13
that you break it down. And I see the way that lights up your face when you talk about it. right. Um uh, there there are many studies out there about, you know, like micro expressions. And and you can tell just by the smallest little shift and change in a person's face the way that they're thinking the way that they're feeling, You know, all of that stuff, huh? Umm in the way that your face lights up when you talk about that, there's something deep inside that you are truly passionate about. Sure, which is incredible, because to pull that out of an individual, right? Knowing that you and this is also conscious right here. Now, this isn't like Oh, this is me, right? I'm doing this nonsense. None of that shit. It's But you're taking this person through an evolution and a pivotal change in their life. Right? Um although they may not think about at that moment where Everything about it. When you can bring that out of a person when you started realizing that you just hook onto it. And that way, what are some of those feelings that a person goes through when they come in that door? Right? Because you see this? I have never had never actually seen this. Um they come in. Is it I that the shy and this and scared. And when they come out, there's this different person. What are those things that you, um, kind of latch on to that has made you so passionate about this part of, you know, the whole world and an industry that you're working in and that you've been in? Yeah. What is that?

spk_1:   1:20:09
It's a great question. Um, I would honestly say that everything has to do with intent, right? The minute they walk in the door in the minute they leave. Um, when they walk into the room, they have to be seen from the jump. Some people don't want to write. They want to hide, you know, the dirt intimidated right off the bat. Um, but again, they never hit anything before. Even if we take the boxing out of it, still intimidated work out in front of another human being judged whatever may be, um, man intent. Yeah, right for myself to, in the words that I use again, words some beautiful but intent behind the word is going to determine the entire shift in the room because again, you can say anything that you want. Love yourself is beautiful, you know, getting sexy wind stronger right now. That's great. A lot of people say that, but again, if you gotta dig deep in what's really happening right here so what's happening is we're taking a human from level one and we're going to level two. It's like a video game. We're upgrading our attributes, and I know that humans have the ability to do and learn anything that they want to. You know? I mean, obviously, maybe intelligence and processing information is different for everybody. We all have the ability to learn and do anything that we want. And the one thing that sets us apart is just this right making up your mind. That's what I'm gonna do. And once you made up your mind, it doesn't matter how long it takes. You believe that that's what's gonna be achieved no matter what. Right. So I just know that when somebody comes into a class of mine or a private situation that when we do something 10 times and I'll tell them this might tell a mobile you listen to this. I don't know what I'm talking about. You do something for the first time out of 10 times. You're gonna get it perfect. One time owned at one time. Yes. The rest of them, you're gonna make tons of mistakes. Yeah, that's great. You're supposed to the s own that. So the next time you do it, you get two out of 10. 3456 That's progression. Right There might take three months to do that. Yeah, but that's the point. That is the point. I'm seeing this. They might not be checking this out as it's happening, But I do. Yes. So I'm just, like in switched on, Like, as this is happening. Yeah. You know, that's amazing. And I was telling like, Look, we'll get to nine. We're never going to get the tank. I never

spk_0:   1:22:50
I love it. I love it. Always get better off. Of course. Absolutely. And, you know, I think we I don't know, Fergus. Me. I've always looked at, you know, working out and, you know, with people with trainers and coaches and all of this shit, right? Um, from just kind of person. Oh, they go in, they are overweight. And they have this huge transformation. Right? Or they go in and they're whatever and they go on for a day and never come back right and all over the board, right? But we think that's okay, and that's okay. We think about the transformations I think about that. I never think about what the trainer of the coach the educator feels or thinks about. And that's why I asked you that question because it's so cool. Be I can totally understand. Like that's why you love what you

spk_1:   1:23:44
do. Yeah, I would. I would hope everybody feels in things that way.

spk_0:   1:23:47
Yeah, yeah, I

spk_1:   1:23:48
hope so. But that's something that I've come along my journey and self discovery it in my fitness genre, you know, um because that's what it comes down to, man. You know, I'm not trying to train a super athlete, but I'll take the pride and pleasure and taking somebody from nothing, and they can walk away with something for the rest of life and nothing they can't be taken away from that, uh, with the fighting in the martial arts and stuff. That's like having a superpower and nobody knows about it. At the end of the day, you walk into a room and you have the ultimate confidence that nobody knows about you could protect yourself. You can defend everybody that's around you, right? So you just walking into the room and you know, 99% of the people don't have that.

spk_0:   1:24:37
Ah ah, yeah, I get it.

spk_1:   1:24:40
So it's important for women to really be able tohave that in themselves. Right? And most of my clients happen to be females. Um, which is a great thing. You wouldn't You would think that all more males are doing this. But

spk_0:   1:24:52
just because you're a good looking dude, man, no, just just do that. I just talking shit. Um, no, but it's It's cause of what you're saying right now.

spk_1:   1:25:04
More women do fitness boxing versus the men that I see coming chit. Yeah, that's awesome. And then that's awesome. Are going from the fitness boxing and then going to the boxing gyms. Damn! Damn, there's more women fighters now than there have ever been.

spk_0:   1:25:22
That's so cool Awareness. That's exactly it's awareness, right? Uh, without anything in life. It's the awareness, and it's an amazing workout, and it's a huge transformation. It's not just like lifting some weights and things like that, right? It's It's that next level, Um, one on one type contact and the way that you can bring out this just inside of a person. Right? So you can lift weights, right? Yeah, And it's It's great. It's fantastic. Fantastic. But like boxing, there's just there's I don't know. I think it's primal. I think it's in all of us. Right. Um you know, for one of my birthdays, my wife, she got me this this president where I got to go to this frickin warehouse and they set up like, all of these, just fucking create, like like, bends and, like, TVs and guitars and all the shit. I'm just breaking that record is a fucking dope. It was amazing. And that feeling that a crash in that I'm not I'm talking about, especially an individual that doesn't have that confidence. Yeah, lacks some of these things that other people might have,

spk_1:   1:26:43
but our society is set up that you weren't able to do that before. Of course, it's changing now. Exactly were being able to release that stuff.

spk_0:   1:26:51
I love that. I know of that. What is that? What is the m inside of us, man? Russian bro. Hot. Even when I do. It is just like fuck. Yeah. Um,

spk_1:   1:27:04
because just in one day, you know, client to take my class. I tell him all the time. Just in a week. How often do you actually want punch something? It's pretty often. Just in a single day, 34 times a day. Just arriving alone. I saw how often you actually get that opportunity. Yes, you just pent up, pent up, better up. And then you get the release. It's such a really, you know.

spk_0:   1:27:26
And it's so cool. Yeah. Ah, and it's helping people 100%. It's helping people.

spk_1:   1:27:32
Even if it's not a physical thing. It doesn't have to be. It's not that this is the point of fitness. Yeah, right. Be healthy, right? There is one thing, but being active is complete different things, right? Be active for yourself, be healthy for yourself, and then you can mix the two together, and then then you get the full spectrum for sure. You know what? You can have one without the other. That's okay. That's a few decision. But you know

spk_0:   1:27:58
when you're going to join my fitness, um, in and all that What is so nasty? I do wanna ask you a couple questions. How important at the same time. Like working out taking care of yourself is the food aspect of all of it. Everyone's, like 50 20 or 50 20. That doesn't make 100 50 58 year, only whatever the fuck it is going through that, um, has that always been something part of you to the food aspect. Or

spk_1:   1:28:33
so the food asset came from being poor. Okay, Right. You know, and I understood just from being at the boarding school and growing up with my mother and how she fed me. Understood what I needed to eat at the end of the day on that limited thing. Protein, vegetables, maybe a potato. Okay. Right. I can simply many years like that. I'm just remembering what I was fed as a child. All right? It was the chicken. It was vegetables. It was potato, right? Yeah, something like that. So I ate that for many years, man, and I kind of stuck to that. So there was no intent of like, I need to eat a certain way. I was eating the way that I kind of was taught, you know, um, granted, we did have the snacks and all the goodies in the cupboards and stuff like that, and I ate all of that. But when you don't have money to afford that, you realize, Okay, that's what I need to buy. The chicken, the vegetables, the potato. That's what I bought. And maybe if I had an apple, I would crunch that are, get a Snickers bar at the end of the week. And I treat, you know, I'm saying, like, horse, I got it. There was no intent of healthy fitness lifestyle. There was an intent behind that, even with the martial arts was no intent behind, like the fitness group in this. That whole thing. Yeah, they're just products of my own progression in life. Um, never followed a diet. I will learn them all. Well, you know, But I don't I don't think that there's ever one right way possible. It's impossible. It's impossible. Human humans across the board digest food in very vast different ways. You know, it's so

spk_0:   1:30:14
true. It's so true. Everyone. So there isn't 11 right way. Um and it so fucking awesome. They hear that Because as guidelines, yes. What would those guidelines be?

spk_1:   1:30:29
Well, you understand what kind of food you're eating, right? So, um, a big thing that when I learned was nutrient dense foods. And what the purpose behind those really are. Right. So if you take in a protein grain, whatever. Maybe, uh and then a vegetable. So if you're looking at nutrient density, you're talking about the quality of nutrients just within that one food, right? So the more nutrient dense the food is, the more fool you were gonna be longer term. Okay, Right. You came or of it. So you got Kale. That's the most nutrient dense food in the entire world. Right? You can look at the numbers. It is incredible. That means you get a ton of that, OK? And get all the nutrients that she wants. Yeah, right. You look down the line. You got sweet potatoes on that thing. You can eat a ton of sweet potatoes to the point that you were full, right? And in that point, you can actually curb your appetite. Okay? Your full much longer. But you've got to keep in mind that the calories are much less so. Even though you're full for much longer the Cali and take us much less You're gonna burn more fat. You're gonna, you know, saying you're gonna actually burning much quicker than you really should be. So it's understanding. Okay, these food groups made me folder faster, longer thes food groups burn even quicker. So I know that if I this this and this, I just found myself out. And I get all the nutrients in my diet based upon a sweet potato from broccoli and a chicken or a salmon or whatever resumes. And absolutely it all has to work together. You can take one thing out. Just work those two things, and you can take two things out and just work the one thing and there's tons of people that do that. But again, that doesn't necessarily work for every single person. Um, you know, just cause we're different. But if you just follow those simple guidelines of a nutrient dense situation again, when I talk about process, we're not talking about none of that. Just the quality of the food that's important, that's it.

spk_0:   1:32:26
That's important. And as Americans, uh, we know where we should know that the quality of food has gone down tremendously.

spk_1:   1:32:35
Well, it's I wouldn't say the quality. I think the quality is actually very good.

spk_0:   1:32:39
None of the quality is very good quality on a mass scale. Yes, I've gone down

spk_1:   1:32:44
the way that they view nutrition.

spk_0:   1:32:47
Sure. I think I'm saying this incorrectly. Yeah, I

spk_1:   1:32:49
know what you're saying. What you say. It's just like the American diet is

spk_0:   1:32:54
what American diet There. Go right. Come on, Brock

spk_1:   1:32:57
Soda. You have burgers? All that stuff that's in the American diet because every culture has her own diet, right? They said that the Mediterranean died is probably the overall haps on healthiest right? Just on a global scale for themselves are sure. But American diet is is what it issue. No, Um, it's terrible, right? Unfortunately, you can't go to the corporation to be like, Hey, you guys got to start done it up. Yeah, and they have, you know, they've tried to make those situations. Sure is what it is, But again, that's a cultural thing.

spk_0:   1:33:29
It's it's benefits of years and years of going this way. But I do see a tide changing in the American diet as awareness. Exactly. Once again, it goes back to awareness. Because for the longest time, we were looking at, um, you know, fast food and all that shit as as a whole, but more arm or the millennial generation is starting to say, Well, no, I want to, you know, do this. I want to do that. I mean, social media, you know, good batter and different has played a large role in that and bringing awareness Sure to, you know, everyday individuals when I have broken share ideas. Exactly. Nothing from

spk_1:   1:34:10
across the table, but from across the

spk_0:   1:34:11
world, huh? Yeah. And I think that, like, when has that ever happened? Never. Never, Never. Never. And the wet In the past 12 11 12 years, the iPhones been I mean, the internet has been around, right? Yeah. That's really where there was a huge dynamic shift in the way that we connected. Oh, yeah, for sure. On every unlike every single day, being able to do that, which is great. Um, So what are some of the next steps for you, man? Like, what the fuck is going on?

spk_1:   1:34:40
That's a great question. I'm just looking for the next thing. Yeah, um, taking everything that I've learned everything that I have experienced and I'm gonna do something with that. Whether it's, you know, doing my own little situation are building something with the people that I feel this you know. What a man. Same same vision, Same idea of empowering people to a different level, not just on the surface level, Because again, you're trying to build a community culture within it, right that people can can believe in and know that it's just consistent and no. And there's nothing that is on authentic that's important. Real people. Yeah, you know, I mean, real, honest people, and, um and that's important our days to find that because again, like you interact with thousands of people all day long, you know? But, you know, some some do. But not all those people go home is your best friends,

spk_0:   1:35:44
Of course. Hell, now is you know, Sal. No.

spk_1:   1:35:46
But if you can create a center that can create that people look for that, all of us do. Yeah, you know,

spk_0:   1:35:54
I mean, to feel wanted, right? They have that sense of community have that sense of belonging, belonging, right, family unity. All those things play such a large role in our life stripes. We have that tribal mentality we always have, right. We from the beginning of time way. That's how we work, right? That's my family is so important to us, right? That is our main tribe for ah, lot of people. For some, it's not right. Um, friends can be just as good. Why not just that sounds terrible, but but just the same friends can be family is all right. Um, so this tribal mentality and so as you kind of work on that and then build that and kind of continue toe push along, I I commend you on that Hauser's thank you so much for tuning into the podcasts. I want a bank, Brian for coming on to share his story. And if you like the podcast, please remember to leave a review like subscribe and share. If you want to hear more stories, go to our website back to your story dot com and remember new stories. Premier Every Sunday at 5 p.m. Smooth